LR 32 holes for shelf pins and hinge screws?

[ReneS]

I've been looking around, but I haven't found anything so far about using 5mm holes for both shelf pins and hinge bracket screws. This relates to the LR 32 system and plunging the shelf pin holes and hinge bracket holes at the same time with the same bit.

The euro hinges I have been using for the past year don't use screws that would work in a 5mm hole.

Can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks.

 

[woodferret]

There are euroscrew (system screw in the Blum catalogue) hinges, but there are also dowel hinges that use the small screw but the plastic insert fits the euroscrew hole.

 

[MikeGE]

I've been looking around, but I haven't found anything so far about using 5mm holes for both shelf pins and hinge bracket screws. This relates to the LR 32 system and plunging the shelf pin holes and hinge bracket holes at the same time with the same bit.

The euro hinges I have been using for the past year don't use screws that would work in a 5mm hole.

Can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks.

I use the Blum Expando hinges that use a 5mm plastic insert, similar to an expanding wall anchor. These fit perfectly in the LR32 5mm holes.




If you have plates that come with smaller screws, you can use a pair of the Blum 5mm inserts.



Edit: @woodferret beat me to it.

 

[ReneS]

Thanks, Woodferret. That was very helpful and gave me some new leads, including one that led to a post here at FOG where this is discussed a bit.

Edit: And thanks, MikeGE.

 

[ReneS]

Phew. I am a bit embarrassed that I missed the many threads on this topic that have been posted over the years.

But I am even more embarrassed by being totally confused by the numerous options.

Not only regarding the screws, dowels, etc. but the way euro hinges are sold. Some are sold with all needed parts, and others come with just some of the parts.

I guess I have some serious studying to do.

BTW, I find it a bit funny when someone suggests getting a drilling jig to a person who invested in the LR 32 system. The whole point is to get away from jigs and drills, not to mention that an owner of the LR 32 system is going to want to make it work for hinges as well as shelf pin holes.

 

[tjbnwi]

We need hinge drilling machines for the doors, the plate holes are drill on the CNC. Our average job uses at least a box of hinges (250).

The 5mm hinge pin bit works great for system screws (Euro screws).

Do not buy the hinges and plates as a “set”, buy the individuals pieces you need.

These hinge plates use the wood screws or system screws.


Tom

 

[tjbnwi]

I had to go look at your other post.

Looking at the build you need;

173H9100 plates, they’re not my favorite plate due to how the height adjusts. You can try the 173H9100.04 plate, I prefer the adjustment on this plate but you may not get the overlay you’re looking for.

The hinge you need is a 110+, they have the option of using wood screws or 3 other attachment method, they require an 8 mm hole. Pick the hinge number by the mounting method you will be using. The boring distance (B) is 6mm.



Tom

 

[ReneS]

Thanks, Tom.

I was looking at the BH71M2550 hinge and the BH175H7100 or the BH175H9100 (euro screw version). This was based on their publication's method.

Do you know whether Blum changes the numbering from year to year. I see you have a 2018 catalog and I got these numbers from their website this evening?

https://www.cabinetparts.com/p/blum-hinges-european-cabinet-hinges-BH71M2550

https://www.cabinetparts.com/p/blum-hinges-european-cabinet-hinges-BH175H7100

 

[tjbnwi]

I have not seen a change in Blums numbers in over 25+ years.

The numbers you posted are from a suppliers website, Blum does not put letters in front of there numbers. Looking at the numbers, you looked at the Cabinet Parts website (I now see you included a link), they are the retail division of one of my suppliers.

71M2550 is a 100 degree swing hinge that is self closing, they use wood screws not system screws (5mm). You cannot get a 19mm overlay with this hinge.

The page I posted shows 110+ soft close hinges. These hinges will go to 19mm overlay with a zero mm plate, open to 110 degrees, again they are also self close. You do need to choose the attachment system.

I prefer the 173H9100 plate over the one you listed, the vertical adjustment in much better.

Tom

 

[ReneS]

Thanks, Tom. I will get a few of those and check them out. (I find I often have to get a product to see how it works for me.)

I appreciate your help.