Mafell on sale by Timber Wolf tools

[Kodi Crescent]

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I already have Festool jig saws and a tracksaw so the Duo Doweler may be my only Mafell purchase.

In my opinion, you're missing out, especially with these prices.  I love the fact that I have probably 25' worth of rail, clamps, and an angle jig in something akin to a shotgun case.  Connecting rails is SO easy!  No more aftermarket "workarounds" on that or multiple flips or accessories.

I can clamp right next to the cut line, too.  I really appreciate that.  No more rail strip coming off inadvertently, either.  Rails have built-in hose deflectors.  Saw has better hose angle guides that don't rotate back in the way.

Pins instead of paddles on joiner.  Awesome jigsaw that doesn't need a second systainer of accessories.  Missing out...

 

[Michael Kellough]

[member=8843]Kodi Crescent[/member]  Timberwolf should send you a commission.

 

[Birdhunter]

When Mafell introduces a battery version of their jigsaw, I will be sorely tempted.

For how I use my TS55 and Festool jig saws (yes, I have two), they are more than adequate. The Mafell jig saw and track saw look really nice, but offer marginal benefits over my Festool units for my uses.

 

[Jiggy Joiner]

I like to have options.

A couple years before the Domino came out I had a commission make a large L shaped set of bookcases finished in Tung oil but keep the wood presence minimal as in thin elements. Maple ply with veneered edges, shared uprights.

The big corner cabinet had to be knockdown for transport. At that time my best option was dowels but the Duo Doweler was too costly (and I think only the Hoffmann was available here?)

My first test failed, not enough precision. Discovered that the Festool VS600 had a 32mm drilling template so bought that and figured out a way to rig it.  With a dowel every 32mm there was enough friction to keep the parts together when clamped/hammered.

All joints doweled.

Very nice job, and shows that with thought, a job can be completed in many different ways  [thumbs up]

 

[Jiggy Joiner]

I have the Mafell mt55 track saw but I see no need for a cordless version as i would never operate it without dust control and that hose is the limiting factor.  It's a good saw but, expensive.

For some cuts, I've found that the MT55 with the dust bag is as clean as the TS55 with a vacuum.

Indeed, it was very noticeably with mine too. To be fair though, I have run a cordless Makita plunge saw with just a dust bag, and that gave surprisingly good results. Not quite on par with the MT-55 but, still very good, and the sense of freedom, and lack of dust really grabbed me.

 

[Kodi Crescent]

I have the Mafell mt55 track saw but I see no need for a cordless version as i would never operate it without dust control and that hose is the limiting factor.  It's a good saw but, expensive.

For some cuts, I've found that the MT55 with the dust bag is as clean as the TS55 with a vacuum.

Indeed, it was very noticeably with mine too. To be fair though, I have run a cordless Makita plunge saw with just a dust bag, and that gave surprisingly good results. Not quite on par with the MT-55 but, still very good, and the sense of freedom, and lack of dust really grabbed me.

If I had the dough and the need I'd get the cordless MT55 and just go with the dust bag.

 

[Cheese]

If I had the dough and the need I'd get the cordless MT55 and just go with the dust bag.

I'm with you Kodi...ever since I purchased the TSC the TS has remained in it's Systainer. It's been sitting in the corner for the last 4 years...alone. Using a saw without a cord and a vac hose attached has been such a liberating experience. It's actually fun to use.  [big grin]

So here's my conundrum, purchase the corded MT55 because it's a great deal and use the TSC for most of my cutting and then employ the MT55 when the going gets tough. In that case I'd move the TS 55 down the road.

OR

Spend the extra $500 and purchase the cordless MT55 while putting both the TSC & TS down the road while having the luxury of cutting without a cord & without a vac hose.

It's guaranteed that one of these two scenarios will happen, I just need to think about it a little longer.

 

[RKA]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member] Get the cordless MT55 and be done with it.  I started with the MT55 (corded).  I happened upon a TSC for a really good price and I’ve found myself using that every chance I get.  The cordless aspect won me over and the dust collection with the bag is far better than I imagined. 

 

[Cheese]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member] Get the cordless MT55 and be done with it.  I started with the MT55 (corded).  I happened upon a TSC for a really good price and I’ve found myself using that every chance I get.  The cordless aspect won me over and the dust collection with the bag is far better than I imagined.

Thanks for that Raj...The corded aspect, especially for a circ saw that you're dragging down a rail with a vac hose and an electrical cord attached, that's catching on the sharp edges of the rail, has never been fun for me. I've put up with it because the results are so satisfying.

The TSC on the other hand is just plain fun to use.

So thinking just a bit more, by putting both the TS & TSC down the road, it would probably take care of paying for the majority of the cost of the cordless MT55 along with it's batteries.

So Raj are you saying that even though you own the MT55, you use the TSC more often because of the convenience factor?

 

[Michael Kellough]

What about power?  18v MT55 vs. 36v TSC55?

 

[Cheese]

What about power?  18v MT55 vs. 36v TSC55?

Michael...why do you butt in and ruin my sugar high?  [tongue]

 

[Cheese]

To tell you the truth, this FOG thread has probably generated more sales for Mafell than the Mafell website.  [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]

 

[Michael Kellough]

I’m trying to figure this out too. The only thing I’m sure of is I have too many saws.

AT 65 (used for dense stuff), ATF 55 (with tiny thin kerf Freud blade for pocket cuts in face grain ply), TS 55 (for general use but usually melamine), HKC 55 (and rails for what it’s good for), TSC 55 (for going cordless), TS 75 for deep cuts and aluminum extrusions).

So, the MT55 @18v is much less appealing to me than the doweler but it’s still appealing...and so is the little cordless saw and it’s Flexi-Rail.

 

[Cheese]

I’m trying to figure this out too. The only thing I’m sure of is I have too many saws.

AT 65 (used for dense stuff), ATF 55 (with tiny thin kerf Freud blade for pocket cuts in face grain ply), TS 55 (for general use but usually melamine), HKC 55 (and rails for what it’s good for), TSC 55 (for going cordless), TS 75 for deep cuts and aluminum extrusions).

So, the MT55 @18v is much less appealing to me than the doweler but it’s still appealing...and so is the little cordless saw and it’s Flexi-Rail.

And we have less than 60 days to decide... [eek]...I think the MT55 will take the place of the TS 75 for deep cuts (cut from both sides, plus a little jointer action) and it will also certainly handle the aluminum cutting.

It then becomes corded versus cordless. I find it difficult to not embrace cordless tools 100%. I"m finding I'm now using my ETSC cordless sander 5X more than the ETS EC 125/150 combo. It's portable, it's cordless, it's hoseless. It's a pleasure to use.

 

[ScotF]

Personally I think that the TSC55 will outperform the Mafell - just because of the voltage. It is one of the tools where I feel that Festool got everything right. Now if you wanted to consolidate rail systems then that is a different matter. I see a corded MT55 and Duo Dowler in my future.

FWIW - Acme has great prices on Bosch rails - just got the long Bosch rail for the price of the Mafell 1600 rail.

 

[P2P]

To tell you the truth, this FOG thread has probably generated more sales for Mafell than the Mafell website.  [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]

Ha!  You might be right!  My new P1cc showed up about a week ago.  Will be using it for the first time on a project in about a week.  Can't wait to put it to use!

 

[Jiggy Joiner]

To tell you the truth, this FOG thread has probably generated more sales for Mafell than the Mafell website.  [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]

[big grin]  [thumbs up]

 

[Svar]

To tell you the truth, this FOG thread has probably generated more sales for Mafell than the Mafell website.  [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]

Reading this thread the temptation is great and growing. If I end up buying something I'll hold FOG community responsible.

 

[Roachmill]

To tell you the truth, this FOG thread has probably generated more sales for Mafell than the Mafell website.  [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]

^True story^  [big grin]

After reading about how users feel about the P1CC and watching countless videos (yours too ScotF) I'm in delivery page refresh mode. A few findings that may help tip others over the edge:

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[*]By the Bosch rails as they appear to be exactly the same as the Mafell but in blue... and way cheaper. Bosch make them for Mafell from what I can see
[*]The rails ability to clamp right next to the cut line looks great for working with narrower stock. Festool sized clamps won't fit the track so be prepared to say, "you're ****ing kidding me!" when you see the price of the bosch FSN rail clamps. I hunted around and found a pair in the UK (from FFX) for just over £50 a pair. You can pay double that, easily
[*]I have a festool plug-it connector en route to try getting it swapped over. It looks to be a straight forward switch both being 240V.  Someone detailed swapping over their DuoDowler on the Mafell users forum (https://bit.ly/2YCbNa4) and the process should be similar.
[*]To all intents and purposes, the Mafell jigsaw blades (except the W1) have direct and way cheaper Bosch equivalents. Again, credit to the Mafell forum for the detective work on thishttps://bit.ly/2SXBjoU
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[RKA]

What about power?  18v MT55 vs. 36v TSC55?

You know, I forgot about that.  You’re absolutely right.  That would certainly make me rethink a cordless MT55 as my only tracksaw, especially if you’re using it on hardwoods.