Making the Domino Stationary

[Jesse Cloud]

In the current issue (August 2012) of Fine Woodworking, Michael Fortune shows how to turn the biscuit joiner into a precise joinery tool by fastening the joiner to the table (his joiner has screw holes on the sides) and jigging a holder for the workpiece.

I have no desire to go back to a biscuit joiner, but I'm wondering if the same principle would work with the domino, especially for odd shaped (curves, compound angles, etc) workpieces.

Maybe Festool could add a couple of flanges with screw holes to the next domino release.

Or maybe Ron could put some on the Domiplate?

 

[IWT-Tom]

I've thought about this before.  What about having it in the same sort of configuration as the Kreg Pocket Hole Machine?

 

[Kev]

The Domino already has threaded holes in the base that could be leveraged.

What'd be cool would be calibrated and motorized plunge control - that way you'd be putting material onto the fence and pressing a button ... with full dust control.

 

[John Stevens]

Somewhere on this website is a thread in which a forum participant made a mount for his domino.  I printed it and have it in a paper file, but it's not handy right now.  I forget the guy's name...he was from Canada...really nice, bright guy, but hasn't posted in ages.

Then there's this:

http://www.woodhaven.com/s?searchKeywords=biscuit+master&Action=submit

Regards,

John

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Just buy a dedicated hollow chisel mortiser. 

Seems silly to make a portable power tool stationary.

 

[Brice Burrell]

Just buy a dedicated hollow chisel mortiser. 

Seems silly to make a portable power tool stationary.

You lack vision.  The beauty of portable tool being made stationary is if the design allows the tool to easily removed.  That hollow chisel mortiser will never be portable.

 

[festoller]

I agree! The CMS Module is one the of best examples for that!

For small work pieces it would certainly make sense to work the other way around. I would be interested in a solution for that, if it's small easy and fast to set up and maybe connectable to the MFT!

Sounds like just the project for RonWen and SENECAWOODWORKING!........Domitach, Domifix, Domiclamp..........! [smile]

For the right price sign me up blind!

 

[PeterK]

Are you thinking horizontal? If so how about the Woodhaven version?

http://www.woodhaven.com/Woodhaven-966D-Biscuit-Master-Domino/dp/B002LU05RK?ie=UTF8&id=Woodhaven%20966D%20Biscuit%20Master%20Domino&field_product_site_launch_date_utc=-1y&field_availability=-1&field_browse=3026362011&searchSize=12&searchNodeID=3026362011&searchPage=1&refinementHistory=subjectbin%2Cprice&searchRank=salesrank

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Just buy a dedicated hollow chisel mortiser. 

Seems silly to make a portable power tool stationary.

You lack vision.  The beauty of portable tool being made stationary is if the design allows the tool to easily removed.  That hollow chisel mortiser will never be portable.

No, the beauty of a portable tool is that it is portable.

 

[TallOak]

I built a simple jig that holds my Domino and Dewalt biscuit joiner.  I find it very useful at times like when I'm doing a batch of cabinet door frames but I use it much less now that I have the Domiplate.

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[Brice Burrell]

Just buy a dedicated hollow chisel mortiser. 

Seems silly to make a portable power tool stationary.

You lack vision.  The beauty of portable tool being made stationary is if the design allows the tool to easily removed.  That hollow chisel mortiser will never be portable.

No, the beauty of a portable tool is that it is portable.

Right, make stationary today and tomorrow remove it from the fixture and it's portable again.

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Just buy a dedicated hollow chisel mortiser. 

Seems silly to make a portable power tool stationary.

You lack vision.  The beauty of portable tool being made stationary is if the design allows the tool to easily removed.  That hollow chisel mortiser will never be portable.

No, the beauty of a portable tool is that it is portable.

Right, make stationary today and tomorrow remove it from the fixture and it's portable again.

Why have to fuss with it at all?  Keep the Domino portable and add a dedicated mortiser.

 

[Deansocial]

im with you on this. if you have a dedicated workshop then have dedicated machines. I see on here people getting rid of machines because they have descovered festool. i just dont see it myself. festool to me is a portable workshop but it doesn't replace real machines

 

[Stone Message]

At first I had a quiet laugh  [big grin] at the prospect suggested but  [unsure] ...

For production work, like that indicated by Talloak, it does make sense. I take the point about the crossover concept demonstrated by the CMS.

However, one has to be careful not to over design/over engineer projects or get too focused on the tool rather than the job itself. The idea has merits but do not let it run away with you!

Peter

 

[Alan m]

i really like the idea of a semi stationery domino.
especially for loads of pieces that are small or aqward. i would get a spare fence and bolt that to the table so that it would be a lot easier to swap between staionery and portable.

my design would be similar to talloaks  design. i would put a few toggle clamps on the fence and on the triangular piece

 

[Mauri Motti]

im with you on this. if you have a dedicated workshop then have dedicated machines. I see on here people getting rid of machines because they have descovered festool. i just dont see it myself. festool to me is a portable workshop but it does replace real machines

LOL  [laughing], I know what you mean though!  [big grin]

 

[Fridolin]

For an occasional quick fix  [wink]:

 

[Jesse Cloud]

Interesting ideas here.  I'm not a big fan of hollow chisel mortisers, especially now that we have the Domino XL for deep mortises.

My itch is to be able to make lots of pieces precisely and rapidly.  Say 8 or 10 dining chairs at a time - that's a lot of mortises and many of them go in a compound angles (not a strong suit for the Domino) or on curves (even worse).  To get the speed I have come to love in the Domino, I have to do a bit of jigging to ensure that the mortise goes exactly where it should - every time.  The process is complicated by the fact that often I need to put that mortise into a piece that already has a lot of labor in it, so a mistake is doubly costly.

I wouldn't want the domino to be permanently stationary, but flexible enough to work in a jig or work freehand (as designed)  my router does that - why can't my Domino....

I'll probably work up some sort of a plywood jig that screws onto the bottom of the domino and has countersunk screw holes for attaching to tables, fences, etc.

 

[tjbnwi]

I do this all the time and keep it real simple. Depending on the number of pieces, I will prop the Domino against the edge of the MFT and plunge the motor with my hip as shown in the pictures.

The other way I do it is support the Domino by the cord boss on the MFT fence in the tall position, hold it in place with a quick clamp as shown in the video. It is much easier to do when your not holding an iPhone shooting a video.

Stationary Domino

Tom

 

[festoller]

CNC Paul had another solution for stationary Domino usage:

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/looking-for-jig-ideas-for-domino-to-do-mitered-cabinet-doors/

The new Bessey toggle clamps would be ideal for this kind of jig.