Man Wins Big Money in Tablesaw Lawsuit

Steve,

In order to see those images you need to be a member of Sawmill Creek.  As a member your browser probably remembers you when you visit the site and you don't have to log in.  I often forget that I can see things here that others can't  [eek].

No harm.
 
Peter Halle said:
Steve,

In order to see those images you need to be a member of Sawmill Creek.  As a member your browser probably remembers you when you visit the site and you don't have to log in.  I often forget that I can see things here that others can't  [eek].

No harm.

But Richard is a member, so why can't he see the attachments?
 
Maybe his browser doesn't remember him and he would have to be logged in all the time.  Just the FOG has an option when you sign in and it asks how long you want to stay longed in, Sawmill Creek may also.

That's my guess.

Peter
 
Peter Halle said:
Maybe his browser doesn't remember him and he would have to be logged in all the time.  Just the FOG has an option when you sign in and it asks how long you want to stay longed in, Sawmill Creek may also.

That's my guess.

Peter

SMC definitely has a "Remember me" checkbox.  Your browser has to have cookies enabled.  If you have your browser setup to keep things private and clear cache, delete cookies and/or history then it won't "remember" you.  (in truth no site remembers you.  The cookie, on your own computer, allows a behind-the-scenes login when you return to the site).
 
Charimon said:
If that is FAKE he deserves an oscar..... I like how he shut off the saw [big grin] before he left it.

I think he should get 1,5 mil too. It is clearly the manufacturer's fault.
 
Reading this thread I have laughed more times than I can count....

A jury awarding $1.5M to this guy seems mathematically correct,... treble damages and all that. However, I do not believe he deserves the money, and in all reality, he will probably never see a dime of it unless the actuaries feel that is a better deal than the cost of an appeal.

I myself have had three close calls with a table saw out on the jobsite. Every time the fence was being used. On the first occasion I was working a piece of pre-finished oak flooring to transition to tile, a "threshold" of sorts. Everything was going fine until..... and then I had kerf sized `dado` across the tip of my thumb just barely deep enough to draw (a hint of) blood.

Yes, my bad. Too many fingers WAY too close to moving parts. Lesson learned....since that day I cannot think of how many push sticks I have fabricated on site to keep my hands away from the blade. 

Then one day I was ripping small pieces,... using a push stick and BANG. To this day I don't really know what happened but a sharp pain ran up my had all the way to my shoulder. It felt like when batting a ball and you hit it 'wrong'. It was not until I was nailing up the pieces I had just cut (above my head) that I saw this small rivulet of blood leaking out my from under my glove. Ironically, there was no hole in the glove, But it did rip the palm of my hand open to the tune of seven stitches... go figure. As best as I can figure, I was `doing all the right things`. However, The lessons drawn from the experience was to 1) slow down and, 2) increase caution (read: pay more) attention.

The final occasion was just this past year. I was ripping a FJP board down to size, and it began to bind. At the time I was using both hands to guide the board. I decided the doing anything more with the board was my 'least safe' option. I felt that if I tried to 'force it' the outcome would be tragic.

I had the foresight to make sure that the rest of my body was well clear of the board. Good thing too, for the instant I lifted my left hand off the board to kill the power, it kicked back and launched across the room. Fortunately the hole was to be covered by a cabinet, and thus did not have to invest a lot of time repairing the hole it made in the wall.

The thing about table saws, and I think most everyone will agree, is that sooner or later a table saw will do something that was at least partially unpredictable. With that knowledge, the best we can do is operate the tool smartly to prevent a human tragedy.

From my life experiences in general I have found that there is no point making something idiot proof,... The quality of idiot improves at a rate which is greater than the rate of prevention.
 
harry_ said:
The thing about table saws, and I think most everyone will agree, is that sooner or later a table saw will do something that was at least partially unpredictable. With that knowledge, the best we can do is operate the tool smartly to prevent a human tragedy.

And that, my friends, is why Festool's Plunge Cut saws, when combined with a suitable guide rail, are such awesome tools!
 
Ever thought that this could be a media stunt? Is there a official website were one can see the court documents of this case? Is there a name we can search? Pictures? An official statement from Ryobi?

Just wondering...
 
Carlos Osorio v. One World Technologies, Inc, Ryobi Technologies, Inc. and Home Depot USA, Inc
Federal Court - Massachusetts District

Here's a copy of the complaint
Osorio Complaint

By the way, my super dangerous 3" belt sander almost chewed up my finger this morning.  Maybe I'll sue Bosch because there was no warning  about unplugging the stupid thing when you change the belt because it's pretty easy to accidentally press the trigger.  After the pain subsided a bit and I stopped the bleeding, I couldn't stop laughing because of this Ryobi case.  How about sawstop technology for sanders?

Steve
 
My problem with this is he could have purchased a Saw Stop but did not.  He made the choice to be cheap and he also made the choice to be careless while operating  a potentially dangerous piece of equipment.  Was he using push blocks or any other safety items.  I know when I'm using my TS I'm am very careful use push blocks or whatever will protect me.  I met someone through work that had been to the ER 3 times from injuries caused by be careless while working on his TS.  I told commonsense goes a long way to keeping yourself safe.  That may seem a little rude but maybe he will think the next time and these manufactures will not be paying for someones stupidity.

I agree with everyone here that people need to take responsibility for their actions.

 
Don T said:
My problem with this is he could have purchased a Saw Stop but did not.  He made the choice to be cheap and he also made the choice to be careless while operating  a potentially dangerous piece of equipment.  Was he using push blocks or any other safety items.  I know when I'm using my TS I'm am very careful use push blocks or whatever will protect me.  I met someone through work that had been to the ER 3 times from injuries caused by be careless while working on his TS.  I told commonsense goes a long way to keeping yourself safe.  That may seem a little rude but maybe he will think the next time and these manufactures will not be paying for someones stupidity.

I agree with everyone here that people need to take responsibility for their actions.

The guy who got hurt didn't buy the saw.  He was just an untrained laborer hired by a contractor who bought the saw.
 
If he did not know how to use the equipment he should have asked to be trained prior to any on the job use. 
 
I can't stop thinking about this case... I'm very very afraid about the future! We are becoming (supported by the government!) a very stupid nation!

Time to move back to Europe [eek]
 
The day I cut off my finger with the drill, I was waiting in the emergency room next to a hispanic laborer who had cuts to his neck and face cased by chainsaw kickback.  He had been given a chainsaw by his boss to go cut plywood.  We both waited while a 16 year old kid who had injured his shoulder falling off a skateboard was treated.  I guess an astute attorney could have hit the trifecta that day in short order.
 
Steve F said:
Don T said:
My problem with this is he could have purchased a Saw Stop but did not.  He made the choice to be cheap and he also made the choice to be careless while operating  a potentially dangerous piece of equipment.  Was he using push blocks or any other safety items.  I know when I'm using my TS I'm am very careful use push blocks or whatever will protect me.  I met someone through work that had been to the ER 3 times from injuries caused by be careless while working on his TS.  I told commonsense goes a long way to keeping yourself safe.  That may seem a little rude but maybe he will think the next time and these manufactures will not be paying for someones stupidity.

I agree with everyone here that people need to take responsibility for their actions.

The guy who got hurt didn't buy the saw.  He was just an untrained laborer hired by a contractor who bought the saw.
In that case,he should have a lawsuit against his boss!!???
 
Don T said:
If he did not know how to use the equipment he should have asked to be trained prior to any on the job use. 

Absolutely, but the worker who hurt himself was an immigrant from Columbia and spoke no English, the employer's name is My Vong, and the name of the guy who bought the saw is Phat Vong.  Without no disrespect intended, I'm not sure there was much chance of this guy getting proper instruction in how to use the saw.

Steve
 
EcoFurniture said:
I can't stop thinking about this case... I'm very very afraid about the future! We are becoming (supported by the government!) a very stupid nation!

Time to move back to Europe [eek]

Aren't you in Canada?!
 
the reason Mc Donalds lost is, the coffee served @ 180 degrees is un-drinkable.  there fore it was determined to be a defective product. [mad]
 
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