MIDI 1 and 36mm hose
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onocoffee
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I don't think so - considering how the input port for the vac is on the side of the hose garage, I presume the coiled 27mm will restrict it. But I could be wrong. If there's a way to tuck the 27mm hose over, you might be able to get the 36mm connected. Maybe.
Hipplewm
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No, I have a Midi and tried just that - I just bought a CT36 and have the 36mm on that and keep the smaller hose on the Midi for sander, domino etc
DanesRFun
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So I got it to work…
@Coen is correct that the lid pinches the D36, so while you are able to lock it, it’s straining that front hinge. But it will fit IF you run the D36 UNDER the hose garage, like when using the Oneida UDD on a MIDI. It fits more easily if you hang the DE end of the D27 slightly out underneath too, and there’s more room without cord… but I did get it to work without too much trouble… but must run the D36 under the garage.
@Coen is correct that the lid pinches the D36, so while you are able to lock it, it’s straining that front hinge. But it will fit IF you run the D36 UNDER the hose garage, like when using the Oneida UDD on a MIDI. It fits more easily if you hang the DE end of the D27 slightly out underneath too, and there’s more room without cord… but I did get it to work without too much trouble… but must run the D36 under the garage.
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Vondawg
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Looks like a basket of snakes 
DanesRFun
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Especially with the hair elastics!Looks like a basket of snakes
What poisonous snake is that?!
DanesRFun
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The D36 cannot come out the standard opening regardless of what you store in the hose garage because as @Coen mentioned the diameter of the hose is too big to fit the standard hose opening. The volume of the garage is big enough… it’s the hose opening that the lid forms the top of that is too small (ie less than 36mm diameter). As I tried to show in my previous photos you can force it, and lock the lid closed, but that front hinge is under strain to do it and will likely break in short order… so not advised.
The alternative is to run the D36 hose out UNDER the garage. The angle to connect to the DE is tighter in this setup, but doesn’t seem like a problem. It is how people with the Oneida UDD attach them to MIDI’s.
Here’s some more photos if it helps… the hose with the bright green hair elastics as cord clips is the D27. The naked hose is the D36. Does this make sense? I’m happy to shoot more pics if that helps.
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DanesRFun
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@Siskiyou This pic maybe better shows the issue. The circled normal hose “port” is too small for the D36. But it can come out underneath instead. Underneath it won’t be locked into position however, like it would be using the normal hose port. I don’t know if that would present a chafing problem or not. It works for the UDD, but that hose isn’t moving around with a tool on the end of it— it attaches the DE to the stationary UDD sitting on top.
To clarify also… this is not how I have my MIDI set up. I use the D27 with it.
To clarify also… this is not how I have my MIDI set up. I use the D27 with it.
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Thanks to all of you, I have a CT36 and use the 36mm hose often so I think I will either get the CT26 or CT36. I’ll have to look and see if the extra size height would matter. Too bad they don’t allow the proper clearance for the 36MM hose, I liked the smaller size of the MIDI.
Cheese
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FWIW...here's my Midi and the 36mm hose coming through the upper hose garage opening is not really a problem. This Midi sits underneath the Kapex and has the 36mm hose attached at all times for general shop cleanup chores. Only when I use the Kapex, do I unlatch the cover, remove the 36mm hose and run a 50mm hose instead. After the Kapex chores are done, I remove the 50mm hose reinstall the 36mm hose and rotate the T-loc to latch the hose garage cover. I've been doing this for the last 5 years without an issue.
Here are some additional photos:
A 27mm-32mm hose coiled up inside the hose garage with the 36mm hose attached to the vac.
A 50mm Festool non-AS hose attached to the vac to use with the Kapex.
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DanesRFun
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Wow, that doesn’t look like the hinge is straining at all! I wonder if the hose gets a little more flexible with use and time? I guess an important note about my test is that the D36 hose I used was brand new… so maybe a bit stiffer still?FWIW...here's my Midi and the 36mm hose coming through the upper hose garage opening is not really a problem. This Midi sits underneath the Kapex and has the 36mm hose attached at all times for general shop cleanup chores. Only when I use the Kapex, do I unlatch the cover, remove the 36mm hose and run a 50mm hose instead. After the Kapex chores are done, I remove the 50mm hose reinstall the 36mm hose and rotate the T-loc to latch the hose garage cover. I've been doing this for the last 5 years without an issue.
Here are some additional photos:
A 27mm-32mm hose coiled up inside the hose garage with the 36mm hose attached to the vac.
A 50mm Festool non-AS hose attached to the vac to use with the Kapex.
Cheese
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Mmmm, could be... I should also note that this is in the basement so it's a constant 65º (?) down there. I purchased the MIDI & the 36mm hose, it'll be 5 years in February. I measured the height differential on the RH side of the cover and it's only about 3mm.
Another thought is that maybe the height differential was initially more but after 5 years of being compressed, the hose just flattened out a bit.
DanesRFun
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@Cheese I did think about temp… it’s not cold where I live, but my basement was probably around 60F. I left the D36 in the house last night, so I redid the test this morning: it’s been ~64F the last few hours and not less than 62F overnight.
The 1st pic shows the lid closed but not latched, so u can see how much a new hose pushes the lid up. Next two pictures are with it latched— the rear shows the lid sitting flush, but the front shows the hose pushing up the lid and I definitely feel the strain on the hinge in locking it.
BUT, the last pic really shows what Cheese’s experience has been— the spiral structure of the hose definitely makes the hose deformable… so I pressed down with my two thumbs on the hose a bit… not hard…and for only a few seconds… but enough to see the spirals start to sort of stretch out a bit lengthwise as my thumbs compressed its diameter slightly. Then I let go and closed the latch again. And you can hopefully see that now the lid is only pushed up less than the thickness of the lid edge.
Looks like you’re a go @Siskiyou! Thanks Cheese!
The 1st pic shows the lid closed but not latched, so u can see how much a new hose pushes the lid up. Next two pictures are with it latched— the rear shows the lid sitting flush, but the front shows the hose pushing up the lid and I definitely feel the strain on the hinge in locking it.
BUT, the last pic really shows what Cheese’s experience has been— the spiral structure of the hose definitely makes the hose deformable… so I pressed down with my two thumbs on the hose a bit… not hard…and for only a few seconds… but enough to see the spirals start to sort of stretch out a bit lengthwise as my thumbs compressed its diameter slightly. Then I let go and closed the latch again. And you can hopefully see that now the lid is only pushed up less than the thickness of the lid edge.
Looks like you’re a go @Siskiyou! Thanks Cheese!
