Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer

[notenoughcash]

i'm on lxt, m12 and festool 18v.

so i will be buying the m12.

usefull i think it will be

 

[Bugsysiegals]

What projects do you use the pin nailer for? 

 

[CeeJay]

I use it quite a lot. Often instead of clamps for a short term hold while glue sets or for positioning.

For jig-making with ply while the glue sets, for positioning drawer fronts before clamping, for solid edge-banding while glue sets etc.

Basically as an invisible temporary fix.

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[Bugsysiegals]

I imagine the pins only have side to side holding power for holding edges flush but on a glued joint don’t actually pull and hold the pieces tightly?  It just sees the pin itself wouldn’t grip in this way and would slip making it more useful for resisting side to side motion?

 

[Packard]

As a strategy i have decided to stick with pneumatic nailer.  The battery operated nailers are decidedly bulky and heavy. May be if the prices and sizes come down..m12 play form is very interesting though.

I was of the same opinion until I had to install crown molding in a medium-sized bathroom.  The compressor, hoses and electrical wires were a headache.  It only lasted for a short while as my chronically problematic Porter Cable 15 gage angle nailer was acting up again, shooting two nails in each hole.

I bought the Milwaukee that same day.  The net result, absent the compressor, hose, and electrical, the Milwaukee seemed smaller, and certainly more manageable. 

My P-C nailer is 20 years old, and I'm pretty sure it is just as heavy as the Milwaukee.  I am only running the standard 2.0 battery though.  Larger batteries will make it heavier and less maneuverable. 

 

[Bugsysiegals]

I'm gluing on some 3/4" edge banding and one piece is a bit warped.  I should be able to keep it level as I move from one side to the other tightening the clamps but this made me wonder ... would this be a good application of using the pin nailer?  Would it be strong enough to shoot the pins through the face of Walnut into the plywood and also to hold the Walnut as you work your way across straightening it?  As long as they sink in a bit it could be helpful rather than trying to do this with the panel laying on it's side and trying to clamp it straight...

 

[CeeJay]

That’s what I use it for a lot. Last time I was using brushbox edge banding which is pretty hard (Janka 9.0 vs 5.0 for Walnut). The edge banding was about 1/2” thick.

If you put a few tabs of blue tape on and shoot the pins through that, it leaves a neat hole if you want to fill it afterwards.

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[Bugsysiegals]

That’s what I use it for a lot. Last time I was using brushbox edge banding which is pretty hard (Janka 9.0 vs 5.0 for Walnut). The edge banding was about 1/2” thick.

If you put a few tabs of blue tape on and shoot the pins through that, it leaves a neat hole if you want to fill it afterwards.

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I wasn't sure the little pins would have the sheer strength ... great application, thanks!

 

[Packard]

I keep forgetting to turn off the battery on my Milwaukee 18 gage pin nailer.  Does anyone know if there is current draw when not actually shooting nails?

 

[Bugsysiegals]

FYI - The pin nailer is available for pre-order with an April ETA for shipment.  All this wait and now I’m sort of on the fence and unsure.  :-\

 

[GoingMyWay]

Tool Nut uploaded 2 short M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer promotional videos this morning:

 

[Packard]

I have the 15 gage angle nailer and the 18 gage pin nailer from Milwaukee. 

Does anyone know if there is any current draw when I leave the unit in the "on" condition but am not firing nails?  I seem to forget to turn it off frequently (though I am getting better lately).

Both have been a god-send when working in a tight bathroom.  I don't have room for the compressor in the bathroom and I cannot do some of the work with the door open.  Without the battery-powered nailer, I would have had to remove the door from the hinges. 

Both work well.  The 15 gage surprisingly is lighter than my old Porter-Cable 15 gage angle nailer (which was not very good even when it was new and once again needed repairs so I just replaced it with the Milwaukee).

I would not hesitate to buy the 23 gage, except that I have a 23 gage and almost never use it.

For the few times I do need it, I find that a brad pusher works just as well.

 

[builderbob]

I keep forgetting to turn off the battery on my Milwaukee 18 gage pin nailer.  Does anyone know if there is current draw when not actually shooting nails?

The nailer has an auto shut off after a period of rest. I can’t imagine the drain to be much if any.

 

[Packard]

Thanks for that information about the auto-shutoff.  I will be able to sleep better tonight. [big grin]

 

[jeh]

21 gauge is the magic one for me. Pinner is never quite adequate and 18 gauge is a bit much.

 

[Imemiter]

Thanks for that information about the auto-shutoff.  I will be able to sleep better tonight. [big grin]

I've got a Senco that'll run out if left on. But it takes all day so the drain can't be much.

 

[Packard]

I just got a email from the Toolnut, and the 23 gage pin nailer is available for "pre-order".

 

[squall_line]

Dear diary:  Today I learned what a Brad Pusher was.  My thumb wept for joy and I think the hammer smirked at me.  Attaching the back panels to the bookcase should go much easier when the time comes.

 

[hdv]

I am not really a fan of Ikea (far from it), but whenever you are in the neighbourhood of one drop by their sales corner. Often they have a box with spare parts. Look in there to see if there are spare nail holders in it. These are included with any of their products that have a back panel that must be nailed to the carcass. You can take them for free and they are quite handy.

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[Packard]

Dear diary:  Today I learned what a Brad Pusher was.  My thumb wept for joy and I think the hammer smirked at me.  Attaching the back panels to the bookcase should go much easier when the time comes.

As a rule I can push a brad all the way home going through 1/4" back panel and going into plywood, poplar or pine.  Not so with oak and maple.  On those hardwoods I have to finish driving the nail with a hammer.  I can generally push in about half way.  The brad pusher will not set the nails below the surface.  I have to use a nailset for that.  For reasons that escape me, I enjoy using a nailset.

They never seem to break, but periodically I misplace them.  I never pay more than $10.00 for them and I see that Great Neck saw still sells them (that is the brand I use) for about $10.00.

I don't know what is the advantage of the $50.00 versions.  I will not be buying one of them.

You are not likely to find these at your local hardware stores.  Amazon.com carries them.

I mostly use it for attaching trim.  For about 20 nails it does not pay to setup my pneumatic nailer.  I now have an 18 gage Milwaukee battery-powered nailer and that is always "at the ready" so I may be using the brad pusher less often.

Also, for panel backs I generally use a narrow crown stapler.  It holds onto the 1/4" ply better than a head on a brad.