Missile Touch-Ups?

[Per Swenson]

Dave with all due respect.

This is the "way of topic forum"

And well, it is where we talk about non-festool stuff.

Nobody, but nobody has said the threat to us is not real.

That is silly.

Per

 

[b_m_hart]

I'll dogpile on here as well.  No one is "shouting", there's been no major breakdown, not even any insane ranting (yet).  I don't think anyone has any intent or even hopes of changing someone else's mind, but it is interesting to see what and how people think.  So long as things stay civil here, I think that this is interesting stuff...

 

[Michael Kellough]

I see.

Truth and Justice are no longer part of the American way.

It is  just the American way.

That is what you are saying, no?

Help me out. correct me if I am wrong.

But it seems to me with out truth and justice the real casualties are those

that blindly believe what they are told and go quietly down the garden path.

Per

Truth and Justice are in the process of being trademarked by the Court TV network,
inspired by Fox News co-opting and corrupting the slogan Fair and Balanced,
resulting in ordinary people believing things like,
"The Soviets were not lured into peace, it was forced upon them by Ronald Reagan."

 

[Woodenfish]

Other than catching an inning or two of a ball game, I have had no time or need to watch television period. Unless of course Kiefer Sutherland dries out and the Fox show "24," returns. That was probably the last time I enjoyed watching television. I guess that makes me then sort of less than ordinary? How nice? Thanks for pointing that out Michael!

 

[Woodenfish]

Dave with all due respect.

Per

Dave, I'm glad you are equally excited about Festools. As you see we have been having a friendly conversation and you are welcome to stay and opine or leave and skip to the next thread. There has been no carnage here to report and nobody is about to get hurt. We are all friends here.

 

[Per Swenson]

Oh Wooden,

You aren't trying to bait me with the "24" schtick, are ya?

Cause that may be too funny.

Per

 

[Woodenfish]

terrorists are created...............  how?    the answer is very simple

YOU dis enfranchise them

YOU take their jobs away so they cant feed their kids (all the wives are suddenly radicals as well)

YOU put their political leaders into prison on false charges or better................

YOU imprison them without charge

YOU throw them off their land

YOU build on their land

YOU put fences round the new buildings and say the land is yours

The French should be heralding Ms. Bardot, like we here have Rosa Parks. I'm sure European historians will have much to say if they can escape to the free world.

 

[Per Swenson]

The French should be heralding Ms. Bardot, like we here have Rosa Parks. I'm sure European historians will have much to say if they can escape to the free world.

Wooden,

I am a little confused, so please elaborate so I don't speculate.

I would hate to read between the lines and insert a meaning you couldn't possibly have intended.

Thank you.

Per

 

[Woodenfish]

Per, Too often times I believe that us in the modern world look at these seventh century throwbacks and capitulate in order to make sense of a senseless situation. Basically, we blame ourselves foremost.

The Ms. Bardot I mentioned is the former actress/model/singer/etc., Bridget Bardot, who has come under attack by her own government five separate times for speaking her mind about how the Islamic immigrants coming to France have not been melting into the French society but are in fact taking France backwards and ruining the French culture by their importation of throwback traditions and cultures. For her actions of loyalty to France she was awarded hefty fines and a suspended prison sentence.

Rosa Parks was a black woman credited as being the mother of the civil rights movement in the US.

My tie of the two women is that each tried to make their countries stronger not weaker. The French government let Ms. Bardot and seemingly the rest of the French population down by stifling her critique of her government's will to be overthrown by immigrants.

I believe that dirtydeeds's remarks propagate these same ideals and has brought mislaid compassion to those who are undeserving.

 

[Michael Kellough]

Thanks for explaining how you equate Bardot and Parks.

From what I've read and heard about Rosa Parks she was a good Christian.
She would be more likely to identify with the immigrants than the privileged traditionalists.

 

[b_m_hart]

edited for clarity.

 

[Woodenfish]

The French should be heralding Ms. Bardot, like we here have Rosa Parks. I'm sure European historians will have much to say if they can escape to the free world.

where you get this link?

I read about Ms. Bardot on my Yahoo news homepage. My recollection of Ms. Parks is from attending and actively participating in school. Imagine that? Thanks again for your vote of confidence Michael.

 

[Woodenfish]

Thanks for explaining how you equate Bardot and Parks.

From what I've read and heard about Rosa Parks she was a good Christian.
She would be more likely to identify with the immigrants than the privileged traditionalists.

First I learn I'm less than ordinary but now having read this I'm having a hard time thinking I'm really missing out! What is a privileged traditionalist and how do I become one? I've heard about life, liberty and the persuit of happiness, but privileges in America? That's a new one to me.

 

[Michael Kellough]

Thanks for explaining how you equate Bardot and Parks.

From what I've read and heard about Rosa Parks she was a good Christian.
She would be more likely to identify with the immigrants than the privileged traditionalists.

First I learn I'm less than ordinary but now having read this I'm having a hard time thinking I'm really missing out! What is a privileged traditionalist and how do I become one? I've heard about life, liberty and the persuit of happiness, but privileges in America? That's a new one to me.

I never implied you were "less than ordinary". I have a friend who doesn't own a TV by choice and neither he nor anyone I know would consider him less than ordinary. I think he is missing out on some important stuff though. Like the HBO series The Wire as the prime example.

I did imply that Ms. Bardot "is a privileged traditionalist". It's a simple recipe, you just have to be rich enough to do whatever you want and insist that everyone else also does what you want, in her case what people did before...

 

[Per Swenson]

Wow,

This has taken a exciting turn.

Wooden, you could have skipped the tutorial on just who Rosa and Bridget are.

That came across as condescending filler.

I just needed a affirmation of what you implied was what you meant.

You confirmed it, Thanks.

Now we know where we stand hunh?

A few things though before you go and consider the lot of us merely leftist appeasers,

ready to bow down at a moments notice to the coming of the Caliphate.

Take a few minutes on the great Gizoogle and do a search on French Colonialism as it relates

to Algeria, Syria, Lebanon, et al and French Nationality law.

Mon Dieu. 

I am going to jump ahead here, you lump "these 7th century throwbacks" side by side with a billion and a quarter people.

That would be the same if I linked 335 Appalachian snake handlers with all the followers of Christ.

Now where in this equation Rosa Parks manages to get denigrated, beats me. that part of the record playing in my head

keeps skipping.

Maybe you think this need rewriting?

? We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. ?

Sure as hell sounds like it, no?

Per

 

[Woodenfish]

Maybe you think this need rewriting?

? We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. ?

Sure as hell sounds like it, no?

Per

All men may be created equal but shortly after that some certainly should lose a few privileges due to poor sportsman like conduct if you know what I mean?

 

[Per Swenson]

Nope, got me there Wooden,

I don't do well with sports metaphors, much beyond the changing of the rules midstream part that you suggest.

Ain't that cheating?

 

[Bill Wyko]

All men are created equal.......then we take our first breath and the gloves come off. ;D

 

[Per Swenson]

He who eats the fastest gets the mostest, eh Bill?

Ever read this?

Per

 

[Woodenfish]

Nope, got me there Wooden,

I don't do well with sports metaphors, much beyond the changing of the rules midstream part that you suggest.

Ain't that cheating?

I don't see the connection?