Most comfortable Hearing Protection?

panelchat said:
3M Peltor Optime 105

+1

Very comfortable and effective.  If you live in a hot and humid area, the cups around the ears may bother you.  I have never tried the Sensgard but notice they get somewhat mixed reviews on Amazon.

Phred
 
I had a pair of the Sensguard a long time ago soon after they came out.

I wore them for a while, but never found them very comfortable. However, they worked well. The problem is that unlike in-ear earphones which usually come with a variety of bud sizes, the Sensguard foam buds are one size only (which seem to be too small for my ears). So if you have the right ear holes for them they can be excellent.

For a while now I have used the Peltor 105 ear protectors which I like very much...so much so that I considered getting another pair for home use for the unwanted ear-bashing from wife and kids.
 
+1 for Peltor ear muffs.

Most definitely the most comfortable ear muffs I have ever worn, for me muffs are better than plugs.

Dan.
 
I use the Peltor Tactical 6s Ear muffs and they are incomparable, I use them In my Tactical rifle training and can say that when your carbine partners are simultaneously firing consecutive shots right next to your head along with the firing of your own rifle its a life saver...But surprisingly I've never used them in the shop
 
I've been using Peltor's for years, what I like is that you can rebuild a set for about $ 6.00 which includes new inside foam and ear cups. After 3-4 years the cups start to get hard and crack.
David
 
Phred said:
panelchat said:
3M Peltor Optime 105

+1

Very comfortable and effective.  If you live in a hot and humid area, the cups around the ears may bother you.  I have never tried the Sensgard but notice they get somewhat mixed reviews on Amazon.

Phred

I think they get mixed reviews because people don't follow the directions.  There is a particular way they must be put on and if you don't do it that way, they do not seal properly.
 
PaulMarcel said:
I generally use the -26db set all the time except when routing, then use the -31db.  The -26 are more comfortable.

DISCLAIMER: I'm aware that Paul-Marcel works on his own in his garage, and that his hearing protection allows ambient noise to travel through, but I thought I'd use his SNR values to illustrate that there is such a thing as "over-protection" when it comes to hearing protection. [wink]

In the UK, the Health & Safety Executive recommend that you should aim for between 80 dB and 75 dB at the ear and should avoid protectors resulting in less than 70 dB at the ear as this can lead to unsafe working environments and isolation. (see http://www.hse.gov.uk/noise/goodpractice/hearingoverprotect.htm)

Of all the tools I own, the TS75 has the highest Sound Pressure Level dB(A) which equates to the noise level measured at the operators ears (of 95 dB). The lowest are my T15 and CXS (a mere 65 dB).

Using more than one tool at once should add no more than about 3 dB to the overall number. TS75 (95 dB) and CTL 26 E (71 dB) works out at 95.01 dB whilst the ETS 150 (72 dB) and CTL Midi (72 dB)work out at 75.01 dB.

So using the "loudest" machine, the TS75 (95 dB) with the CTL 26 E (71 dB) whilst wearing 31 SNR protectors, results in 68 dB at the ear which is slightly below recommendations. At 26 SNR, it's 73 dB at the ear which gives adequate protection and does not "over-protect". But the 26 SNR protectors would result in "over-protection" with some of the quieter tools and a lower SNR may be advisable.

Now obviously "over-protecting" won't damage your hearing, but outside of the home workshop, it could cause the safety and isolation problems mentioned by the HSE.

Of course, the designs like those that Paul-Marcel uses, that allow sound at safe levels to pass through to the ear canal while reducing potentially harmful noises (above 85dB) change the equation slightly, but not everyone is using those.

Personally, given I work on my own in a small garage and my woodworking is part-time in nature (as the length of time of exposure is also a variable), I like to use different protection depending on the nature of the work. When using tools that can inflict severe physical damage to me in milliseconds (saws, routers etc.) I like to know the tool is on and in use!  [scared]

When sanding for longer periods, I like to listen to music instead of the sounds of the tool and extractor. When drilling, I hardly ever have earing protection on unless it's already in place from other operations.

I guess what I'm saying is that one size doesn't always fit all (with regard to SNR level as well as type of protection) and as mentioned earlier in the thread, the best hearing protection is the one you actually wear.
 
Good thread as I've been looking to get a pair of something that I can listen to music while sanding for long periods, etc.  I'd also like to use them when doing other monotonous jobs, such as using the wood splitter for hours on end, etc.  The Ryobi Tek4's have peaked my interest... cheapest through HomeDepot: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-Tek4-Audio-Plus-Noise-Suppression-Headphones-RP4530/100671268#product_description

Anybody use these before?  I'm not a fan of Ryobi, but they are getting pretty good reviews across the web.
 
Garry,
An excellent post.  I have been sitting hear (Ha! pun intended) reading every post.  right from the start, i was thinking about the problem of cutting out too much sound.  Your post lays it all out.  I don't understand ALL of the specs, but the idea comes across in a way that anybody can understand.

For years, I worked in construction, but for most of my work, I was actually isolated from most of any bpthersome noises.  I never wore any ear protection unless i was running a chainsaw.  It was not until my knees began bumping my chin (I was a mason and used to be 7 feet tall.  When I shrunk down to only 3 feet tall, I quit that biz) that I got into a biz that made all kinds of noise all day.  I started landscaping and ran mowers, chainsaws, blowers, tractors and a lot of other noisy machines.  I decided that it was time to wear earmuffs.  Sort of like Sittingelf's.  I had a large crew of highschool and cllege age young men working as well.  I insisted they wear hearing protection as well.  I bought muffs for everyone and had an extra supply.  I was happy to notice that some of the guys were using their own muffs, but did not pay much attention to brand or anything like that.  With the muffs that i had supplied, they could hear when I yelled at them, or more importantly, they coud be aware of machinery movement around them.  Soon, I began to reallise the lads who were wearing their own muffs could hear nothing.  They did not even hear a loud mower coming anywhere near them.  I thought it was the long hair and was about to instruct they cut the hair back above the ears, until i noticed they not only could not hear ANY THING, they were bouncing around like bees were in their pants.

I took closer notice and found hey were wearing the type muffs that were hooked to tiny radios of some kind. The boom came down.  I ordered that they could only wear something that allowed them to hear ME.  Since I am a veeerrryyy mild mannered person, I knew they would be able to hear the danger noises as well.  No hearing monitoring contraptions with wires connected were to be worn on any of my jobs.  As I read later, those music types of muffs could be more dangerous tto the ears than the noises they were trying to hide from.  Recently, my grandson started working with me.  I boght him the same kind of muffs i wear.  He mentioned listening to music with them.  My reply was a very emphatic NO!.  I su ppose if they listened to the type music I would listen to, they would be ok.  But when the music rattles the walls, >>>>>>>>>>!
Tinker
 
When I'm on site I use a pair of husqvarna radio muffs which I wear all day no problems, I has 3 volume presets which allow me to turn up when gets noisy and the low setting just gives me ambient sound and I can still hear people talking to me.
If you look at my videos I posted you will see what they look like, besides my festools iris the best tool I own
 
Tinker said:
They did not even hear a loud mower coming anywhere near them.

[scared]

One of the other interesting by products of "just enough" hearing protection is that it tends to be more comfortable. The higher the SNR rating with in-ear plugs, the more they need to expand into the ear; the higher the SNR rating with ear muffs, the tighter they have to be on the ear. As a consequence, comfort can suffer, and so people can end up not wearing them when they should do. Once again, the best ear protection is the ear protection you actually wear, and the more comfortable it is, the more likely you are to wear it.

Paul-Marcel hinted at this previously with the comment about wearing the 26 SNR most of the time, and the 31 SNR only when using louder tools as the 26 SNR were more comfortable with the 31 SNR being a tighter fit in the ear.
 
I quite fancy giving the sensgard ones a try anyone know where in the uk I can get them
 
I shoot shotguns competitively when I'm not doing woodworking. I also shoot .45 1911 pistols (loud).

My hearing is shot from early life shooting without any protection, age, and flying airplanes. I do anything I can to protect the hearing I have left.

When shooting shotguns, I use "active" ear plugs. They are custom fitted by an audiologist, act as hearing aids in normal noise levels and shut off if the noise level exceeds a preset level. I also have some "passive" ear plugs that musicians use to limit the sound levels reaching your inner ear. They are also custom fitted by an audiologist.

If I'm using a very noisy machine, I wear Peltor muffs. Noisy machines include bandsaw, planer, jointer, router, and table saw.

If I'm shooting pistols, I wear the passive ear plugs and a set of active Peltor muffs.

I really advise seeing an audiologist.
 
Like someone else said, I find ear plugs to be uncomfortable so I always wear muffs. I have been using Peltor for 10 years or more and just ordered the X5A after reading this thread and great reviews on Amazon about them.
We had a family friend that was an ENT who always said that he would rather be blind than deaf because most of his deaf patients were miserable and not the blind ones. It seems hard to believe but that stuck with me at an early age and I have been good about wearing ear protection.  My hearing is still very good and I don't know why after 39 years of construction and shop work. Everything else is shot so I am protecting the hearing.
 
I have never tried the plug type.  I am working in dust all the time thru the growing season.  i am sure the plug type might keep some of the dust ut of my ears, but at the same time, I think they would tend to trap any dust that might get in during periods of non wear.

The dust I work around includes normal seed and ground dust kicked up by mowers, soil dust kicked up by tractor drawn equipment, and things like that.  Of greater concern is the fertilizers and pesticides that get thrown around.  I do not use any pesticides on the lawns i give full service to, but many of the lawns I mow use chemical lawn feeding services.  That kind of stuff gives me more than a slight concern.

When i was in construction, I was working with cement and lime nearly every day. On days when I was not using the cementing materials, i was working with the backhoe and related equipment. About once a month, i had to flush out my ears.  The wax would build up to a very thick and solid plug with steaks of color related to the types of dust I was working in.  Now I am working in a medium that produces, in my mind, a more dangerous type of dust, i use the ear muff type that completely covers the entire ear.

I'm not suggesting my method is any better than what others are wearing, it is just that my mind (such as it is  [unsure]) can rest easier.
Tinker
 
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