Need a router table for a OF 1400

[J0hn]

Say all you want about Girzzy or Shop Fox, this is still better for the same cost as any router table, especially for the larger bits like raised panels..

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[antss]

Say all you want about Girzzy or Shop Fox, this is still better for the same cost as any router table, especially for the larger bits like raised panels..

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Spoken like a true internet jockey that has little practical experience.  We're glad you like your router table though.

 

[HowardH]

I ordered a CMS GE system and it's going to arrive tomorrow.  For me, I want to keep my shop space uncluttered and having the ability to fold it up and put it out of the way when not in use is key.  In addition, I sold off a Kreg router table because it took up quite a bit of space and the dust collection was horrific.  Even with two hoses connected, one to the table and one to the fence.  From what I can see, the CMS dust collection is vastly superior.  Yeah, it was a lot of money but so were all the other Festools I own.  Someday, whenever that is, when I have a dedicated shop, I'll own a shaper but until that happens, I'm sure I'll be pretty happy with the CMS. 

 

[Bohdan]

In n America the cms is only approved for use with the 1010 and 1400 routers.
You may find the parts included for th 2200 router in the cms box, but festool says use of the 2200 router will void the warranty

Most of us don't use the 2200 in the CMS in the USA because of the warranty issue, It works great BTW

My question is "Which warranty?" The CMS or the OF2200.

If for the CMS then there is not a lot that can go wrong other than the power switch.

If for the OF2200 then how come it's OK in the rest of the world.

 

[peter halle]

Here is the official statement from Festool USA regarding the use of items other than the 1010 or 1400 in the CMS table:

Warning: The Festool CMS System is approved for use with only the OF 1400 and OF 1010 routers in the US and Canadian markets.  It is not approved for use with the OF 2200, nor with any of the CMS modules currently available outside the US and Canadian markets (TS, Jigsaw and sanding modules).  Festool USA does not  endorse the use of these components and will not support them with spare  parts or repairs. The use of anything other than the OF 1400 and OF 1010 routers and their related accessories with the CMS will void the warranty agreement on the entire system for customers within the US and Canada. Festool does not endorse the application or use of any Festool product in any way other than in the manner described in the Festool Instruction Manual. To reduce the risk of serious injury and/or damage to your Festool product, always read, understand and follow all warnings and instructions in your Festool product's Instruction Manual.

Peter

 

[Sparktrician]

My question is "Which warranty?" The CMS or the OF2200.

If for the CMS then there is not a lot that can go wrong other than the power switch.

If for the OF2200 then how come it's OK in the rest of the world.

First, I do not speak for Festool USA. 

Second, it has to do with the CMS' power switch switch being rated at 13.5 amps, which is well under the max amperage that the OF 2200 for the NA market CAN draw under full load. 

Third, the NA models of the OF 2200 are for use on 125 volts, not 250 volts as in much of the rest of the world.  When you halve the voltage, you double the current. 

Capisce? 

 

[Rob-GB]

I run a 110v OF2200 in my 110v CMS in the UK with no issues, (they are sold together as a package) and run off a 16 amp breaker with a 13 amp fused plug going to the 240v to 110v transformer....Oh! the hoops us Brits have to jump through to work on site  [mad]
The only reason for the whole issue is the US and Canada safety bods being dumb so Festool have to cover their company's rear end from the super litigious mentality that exists.
So if you run an OF2200 in a CMS over there and stick your hand in the cutter going full tilt you are actually responsible for your own actions and ambulance chasing lawyers don't get a big payday , for a change  [big grin]

I think I have shown that the OF2200 and CMS combination works really well and is in the big leagues of router tables from some of my project posts.
It is based on a spindle moulder/shaper set up and if you have had experience of them you will instinctively know how to best utilise it. Micro adjustment on router table fences is redundant, you need to set up a datum to work from for each cutter which takes as much work as setting up for the actual cut. It also has a rare trick up it's sleeve, apart from portability, that a spindle moulder/shaper (and most router tables) can't do, (I am not alluding to the obvious ability of taking the router out to use alone elsewhere).
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Rob.

 

[tbaughdad]

So I need to get a router table that fits a OF 1400.  Will the CMS table work?  It's just not clear looking at the Festool site or other sellers' sites.

I have an extra CMS router lift - table that I would like to get rid of. You would have to make a table to put it in however. PM me if interested.