NEW Domino Joiner accessory: Multi-position Guide Stop

[Rick Christopherson]

I am now taking orders for the Multi-position Guide Stop (MGS-20) attachment for the Domino Tenon Joiner. You can read more about this, or place orders at www.dominoguide.com

The MGS-20 was formally announced 2 weeks ago at the Festool USA headquarters during the Cabinetmaking End-User Training class on November 2. It is an attachment for your Domino joiner that fits on the Domino base using the existing screw holes for the Support Bracket.

The MGS-20 gives you stop positions, similar to the built-in pins on your Domino, except these are fully adjustable, and you can use more than 1 pair (up to six positions per side). It fits both new and old style Domino bases, and you do not need to alter your Domino to use it.

The position stops (called dogs) flip forward when needed, and flip back, out of the way, when not needed. They are extremely rigid when engaged and will not deflect sideways when you push the workpiece against them. This is critical for maintaining accurate mortise positions.

A spacing/adjusting screw can be used on any Dog arm to reduce the distance between stops. With a spacing screw installed, you can have two adjacent stop positions be as close together as 1/16-inch. They can also be used for fine tuning the stop positions.

The MGS-20 comes with 2-pair of stop position assemblies, stainless steel thumbscrews for mounting to your Domino, and instruction manual. The outer pair of stop assemblies also include stainless steel socket head cap screws for the spacing/adjusting screws.

The MGS-20 is available now for the introductory price of $99 (US).  www.dominoguide.com

(If you are a Festool dealer, I will provide you with login information to the dealer area of the website for ordering. Click the button at the bottom of the home page to contact me.)

 

[chrisrosenb]

Those of us that attended the latest end user training at Festool HQ in Indiana got an up close look at the Multi-position Guide Stop.
This is a high quality attachment for the Domino.

Chris

 

[Bob Marino]

I am now taking orders for the Multi-position Guide Stop (MGS-20) attachment for the Domino Tenon Joiner. You can read more about this, or place orders at www.dominoguide.com

The MGS-20 was formally announced 2 weeks ago at the Festool USA headquarters during the Cabinetmaking End-User Training class on November 2. It is an attachment for your Domino joiner that fits on the Domino base using the existing screw holes for the Support Bracket.

The MGS-20 gives you stop positions, similar to the built-in pins on your Domino, except these are fully adjustable, and you can use more than 1 pair (up to six positions per side). It fits both new and old style Domino bases, and you do not need to alter your Domino to use it.

The position stops (called dogs) flip forward when needed, and flip back, out of the way, when not needed. They are extremely rigid when engaged and will not deflect sideways when you push the workpiece against them. This is critical for maintaining accurate mortise positions.

A spacing/adjusting screw can be used on any Dog arm to reduce the distance between stops. With a spacing screw installed, you can have two adjacent stop positions be as close together as 1/16-inch. They can also be used for fine tuning the stop positions.

The MGS-20 comes with 2-pair of stop position assemblies, stainless steel thumbscrews for mounting to your Domino, and instruction manual. The outer pair of stop assemblies also include stainless steel socket head cap screws for the spacing/adjusting screws.

The MGS-20 is available now for the introductory price of $99 (US).  www.dominoguide.com

(If you are a Festool dealer, I will provide you with login information to the dealer area of the website for ordering. Click the button at the bottom of the home page to contact me.)

Rick,

I'm on board with this one! THANKS.

Bob

 

[Frank Pellow]

Rick, congratulations on getting this going and I wish you lots of success with this endevour.

It looks like a great device  [thumbs up] and one that I would purchase if I had a Domino. But, I don't   so I won't .

 

[nclemmons]

Rick - very nice design - congrats on the launch.

neil

 

[Dan Clermont]

Nice Rick

Like Bob said! I am on board with this as well and will e-mail shortly.

Dan Clermont

 

[AztecKing]

Rick, are you planning a video anytime soon to show it in action?  It looks very nice by the way. 

 

[RONWEN]

A very well thought out tool that will enhance the versatility and capabilities of the Domino.  You should possibly consider becoming an engineer... [wink]

 

[johnsonri]

Great product!!! I will own one, I just know it.

Rey

 

[Bob Marino]

  OK, just got my delivery of the Guide Stops; won't get a chance to work with them until tomorrow, but MAN ARE THESE STOPS WELL ENGINEERED AND MANUFACTURED!  Very solid, built llike the proverbial tank.
Right on, Rick.[thumbs up]

Bob

 

[RONWEN]

Rick,
SUPER QUALITY & ENGINEERING!

I just attached mine & ran through your set up instructions -- dead simple & worked like a charm, it couldn't be simpler!

This is really going to be a great enhancement for an already great tool!

Thanks,
Ron

 

[Rick Christopherson]

Thanks Guys.

I had a feeling you were going to be surprised by how robust they are built. Hey, if you can't over-engineer it, what's the fun in doing it at all?  [tongue]

Most people aren't accustomed to seeing anything made from 14 gauge steel, and you would be hard pressed to find anything else in the workshop made this thick. Not even a cabinet tablesaw uses steel this thick. The last thing I wanted to do was skimp on materials. Even all of the fasteners are stainless steel, with the exception of the 4 phillips-head screws. Even the custom-made thumbscrews are stainless steel, and if you had to buy them non-custom in quantities of 1's or 10's, they would cost $10 to $15 apiece.

In order to be able to put such high quality parts into the guide, I had to "Plan" for success, not just "hope" for it. If I didn't build these in high volume, they would cost $800 each, and obviously that wouldn't sell very well.

 

[Frank Pellow]

...
In order to be able to put such high quality parts into the guide, I had to "Plan" for success, not just "hope" for it. If I didn't build these in high volume, they would cost $800 each, and obviously that wouldn't sell very well.

Rick, I like the way that you think (and plan). [thumbs up]

 

[jvsteenb]

Rick,

I like your design ! ( and your entrepreneurial guts ).
From the looks of it  the markings are imperial, aren't they ? Planning to do a Metric version as well? ( not that it's a big issue, with this design )

This might just be the last little push I need to fall into the Domino-vortex..... do you sell in Europe ?

Regards,

Job

 

[Brice Burrell]

Rick,

I like your design ! ( and your entrepreneurial guts ).
From the looks of it  the markings are imperial, aren't they ? Planning to do a Metric version as well? ( not that it's a big issue, with this design )

This might just be the last little push I need to fall into the Domino-vortex..... do you sell in Europe ?

Regards,

Job

I just assumed it was metric. But I think you're right, it does appear to be imperial. Rick can you confirm?

 

[Rick Christopherson]

Rick,

I like your design ! ( and your entrepreneurial guts ).
From the looks of it  the markings are imperial, aren't they ? Planning to do a Metric version as well? ( not that it's a big issue, with this design )

This might just be the last little push I need to fall into the Domino-vortex..... do you sell in Europe ?

Regards,

Job

Yes, I ship to Europe, and any other country the U.S. postal service serves, which I believe is any country that we have fair trade with (or something like that).

Yes, the graduations are 1/16" divisions, but I have actually contemplated removing them. When I first put those on, I did so thinking that they could be of value for a quick setup, but that was before I had a finished unit to experiment with. It took me all of 30 seconds to realize that using those graduations would not be accurate enough for the caliber of the accuracy this guide is intended. I almost removed them when I had the baseplates repainted, but decided to keep them in place for now, simply for appearances.

The setup procedure I developed for the stops is so simple and accurate, that once you use it, you would never consider using the graduations. Using the graduations would require trial-and-error to tweak the settings to compensate for trivial variations. The documented procedure is a one-shot deal, and you get the correct position the very first time. (This also virtually eliminated the need for the "Adjustment" part of the Adjustment/Spacer screws, so they are really just spacer screws, used when you need two adjacent stop positions very close together. FYI, the spacer screws permit adjacent stop positions to be as close as 0.0747" (1.9mm) apart.)

This is documented in the brief MGS-20 Manual I put together last week. It uses the Domino Sight Gauge and two blocks of wood to set the stop positions, and it even compensates if your Sight Gauge has not been calibrated. It is based on the same procedure that you use to calibrate your Sight Gauge, except you now use the edge of the two blocks of wood to butt the Position Stops up against during adjustment.

By the way, I am going to try to expand the scope of the manual when I get the time. Right now it focuses on setting up the guide, but does not discuss applications.

 

[Rick Christopherson]

By the way, the first batch of guides that shipped was mainly geared toward dealer orders, plus RonWen, because he made such a big deal about being the very first customer.  [tongue]  A huge batch of guides went out the next day for customers, so they should be receiving theirs today. Hopefully I/we will hear more feedback from them about their initial impressions. (hint hint).  [big grin]

By the way, because so many people were ordering the extra stops, last night I completely redid the shopping cart and created a new part number, MGS-30, which is the same as the MGS-20 but with the extra stops already included.

MGS Guides

 

[RONWEN]

When I first got mine I thought the same about imperial graduations on a metric tool (confusing).  But as Rick says, once you start using his setup procedure you'll find that the hash marks won't be used at all.  His procedure allows for a much more precise setting with either metric or imperial dimensions (your preference).

 

[RONWEN]

By the way, the first batch of guides that shipped was mainly geared toward dealer orders, plus RonWen, because he made such a big deal about being the very first customer.  [tongue]  A huge batch of guides went out the next day for customers, so they should be receiving theirs today. Hopefully I/we will hear more feedback from them about their initial impressions. (hint hint).  [big grin]

I just didn't want you to sit up all night long waiting for a customer to come along to test the website.   [unsure]

My normal approach on new products is to let them "bake" awhile letting others find the issues & bugs (can you spell Microsoft?).  With the MGS it appears that Rick has done a nice job of up front debugging.  [cool]

 

[greg mann]

I just assumed it was metric. But I think you're right, it does appear to be imperial. Rick can you confirm?

Just think of the markings as 1.5mm, Brice.  ;D