New Dominos Coming to North America

[peter halle]

From the Festool USA website this morning:

 

[Michael Kellough]

Looks like with the DFC you can push inline with the bit axis.

 

[ChuckS]

Even more inline than with the barrel on the Q or RQ model.

 

[onocoffee]

This should have been the 100th Anniversary release - with the 100th logo on it.

But I gotta say, the DFC is tempting.

 

[Cheese]

I find it interesting that the cordless version is cheaper than the corded version. Although the DFC is really bare-bones compared to the RQ version.

 

[Coen]

I find it interesting that the cordless version is cheaper than the corded version.

Because they make the profit on the batteries. Probably a lot less regulatory stuff too. Only have to certify the charger I guess.

 

[Cheese]

Because they make the profit on the batteries. Probably a lot less regulatory stuff too. Only have to certify the charger I guess.

Ya and that's funny because one of the reasons always mentioned for not changing over to brushless motors on all the tools was because they were supposed to be more expensive than brushed models.

 

[jronman]

I'm surprised it is coming to NA. I heard Festool was going to quit releasing new stuff here. I don't recal where I heard those claims and I don't know the how valid those claims were but these images prove otherwise (at least for the Spring launch cycle).

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I find it interesting that the cordless version is cheaper than the corded version. Although the DFC is really bare-bones compared to the RQ version.

That's the Basic unit, not batteries or charger.

 

[Lincoln]

That's the Basic unit, not batteries or charger.

Only available as 'Basic', I believe.

 

[luvmytoolz]

Only available as 'Basic', I believe.

I had to look that up as I thought that was curious, and yes only available as a basic set. I'm guessing purely a marketing decision to make it appear more economical, especially against the DF500.

Little surprising though as the expectation for Festool gear is that it isn't cheap anyway.

 

[Lincoln]

I had to look that up as I thought that was curious, and yes only available as a basic set. I'm guessing purely a marketing decision to make it appear more economical, especially against the DF500.

Little surprising though as the expectation for Festool gear is that it isn't cheap anyway.

Same as the impact driver, only available as a 'skin', unless you bundle it with the TPC.

 

[MacBoy]

impact driver, only available as a 'skin'

In the USA, the TID 18 is sold as a set with two 4.0Ah batteries and a charger in a systainer.

 

[PaulMarcel]

Perhaps an odd request, but I wish the new models would have a button/setting to override the oscillation so you could simply drill an 8mm or 6mm hole at the crosshairs. There are times I have very small or narrow pieces that I will use dowels for. This would allow me to use the Domino to make the dowel holes. Instead, I use a drill, dowel centers, a drill again, all like a Neanderthal...

 

[Nisbeth]

@PaulMarcel probably one of those things that depending on the design of the gearbox is either very easy or effectively impossible to do

 

[luvmytoolz]

Perhaps an odd request, but I wish the new models would have a button/setting to override the oscillation so you could simply drill an 8mm or 6mm hole at the crosshairs. There are times I have very small or narrow pieces that I will use dowels for. This would allow me to use the Domino to make the dowel holes. Instead, I use a drill, dowel centers, a drill again, all like a Neanderthal...

One of the dirt cheap Asian Domino knock-offs would do that just fine. You could lock the sideways motion and just allow it to plunge.

https://www.aliexpress.com/p/tesla-landing/index.html?scenario=c_ppc_item_bridge&productId=1005005203141174

 

[mino]

Ya and that's funny because one of the reasons always mentioned for not changing over to brushless motors on all the tools was because they were supposed to be more expensive than brushed models.

With a DC power source, for brushless you do a "simple" curve-generation to generate the 3+ phases of AC needed for the motor. Relatively simple and cheap addon on top of the single AC curve a brushed motor gets by with.

With an AC source, you first need to generate DC from the AC power you got, then you can do the same as with the DC power source. One more conversion, at a high voltage at that, and you can see why it is more tricky. There are phase-shifting tricks to make this more efficient, but the gist of more complexity stays.

Further, a brushed AC tool allows you to leverage the AC input directly, a simple capacitor is all that is needed for a single-phase brushed motor to operate. True, the full-wave electronics Festool uses are more complicated than that, but still those electronics only "tune" the AC wave they are presented with, they do not do the full AC-DC-AC conversion a brushless single-phase AC tool requires.

 

[Michael Kellough]

One of the dirt cheap Asian Domino knock-offs would do that just fine. You could lock the sideways motion and just allow it to plunge.

https://www.aliexpress.com/p/tesla-landing/index.html?scenario=c_ppc_item_bridge&productId=1005005203141174

But, does it plunge straight and square?

 

[Cheese]

One of the dirt cheap Asian Domino knock-offs would do that just fine. You could lock the sideways motion and just allow it to plunge.

https://www.aliexpress.com/p/tesla-landing/index.html?scenario=c_ppc_item_bridge&productId=1005005203141174

I don't know...there's a reason why Domino bits look like they do and a reason drill bits look like they do. With the absence of lateral motion, the Domino bit will not easily clear the wood chips, that's the job of the high helix angle used on drill bits. Without the high helix angle wood just gets drilled, chips become packed in the void, the bit overheats and the precision of the drilled hole goes South.

 

[Tony from Pandora]

Any chance the new 'improved' fence would fit on the older Domino 500?