New Fein 2015 models

Not sure about elsewhere but have you looked at the price of a fein replscement battery?  $271.80 today on amazon. Hope that's a mistake
 
The batteries have finally died on my old CD 12, but the chucks fit my CDS.  I suppose i am overloading the little wonder when i chuck in a larger drill using the larger chuck from the CD 12.  But so far, it has been doing everything i want throw at it. I have an old 12v makita and a 9v Hitachi that i resurrected when my CD 12 gave out.  The Makita can twist my arm off, but the battery does not last as long as my CDS batteries. Those batteries seem to just go forever.  When they do die, i have no warning.  The tool just quits.  The first time that happened,  thought there was something wrong with the tool.  Every time it happens, i am surprised.
Tinker
 
I had a little squeeze time with the new Fein models. Unfortunately I missed the Fein rep who was Demo'ing the tools.

It feels great in hand and the bit holder is solid. The Dealer was impressed by the Demo and said the 12V MultiTalent cuts really well and that the quick chuck drill was very powerful for its size. They drove 8x200mm screws (in wood) in _2nd_ gear.  [eek]
Tale does not tell which wood but probably soft wood studs.

Also there was confirmed that Fein will release an Angle Head and Bit chuck (Centrotec style) for the drill.

I am positively impressed with the little drill and I think that with the 12V impact there is little to ask for. I don't think the drills would be suited for larger hole saws but as a workshop/cabinet general drill/driver it seems excellent.

I still think the CXS is the best little drill I have ever had but if I was in the market for a small drill I'd give the Fein a long hard look: small, strong, brushless and a multicutter and an impact in the tool range makes for a nice little package. :)

 
This is interesting.

I got the Fein ASCM 18 QX back when Toolnut had the crazy low price.  But I needed a powerful cordless drill right away and it was something like $175. 

I recently used it with a 6" hole saw.  I was making some bean bag toss games.  At one point it grabbed and the drill was yanked out of my hands and went flying.  Bottom line was it had no problem with whatsoever drilling 6" holes in 3/4" plywood.  After the first couple of holes I got tired of being mauled and just ran it backwards.  Made a smoother hole.  So I guess I got my power.

Then Toolnut ran the 18v multimaster for $300.  I thought about it if for no other reason than to get two more batteries for the drill.  Plus they would be lighter batteries being 2.5ah but I didn't bite.  Just not sure if I want to commit to the battery platform.  I just get the feeling that stuff is going to break in the next couple of years.  Now I have some cheap drills for utility, a CXS for functionality and this hoss from Fein.  I can sit back and wait for the picture to flesh out a little.  I just get the feeling in the long run it will be Festool.  We'll see.

What am I doing for a multi tool in the mean time?  Harbor Freight of course.

 
I am wishfully thinking that a little further down the line Festool might actually offer a rebadged Fein ASCM and the 12V Impact in the CXS line up. It would make sense: a four gear brushless drill with chucks and an Impact drill for the CXS/TXS line up. I would get both. Toss in that MultiTalent and I am good to go. ;)

The Fein ASCM bit holder shaft has the same diameter as the larger Fein Quick drills but the Fein Bit Quick chuck does not lock in place. It fits nice and snug but the locking ball detents are not the same and do not match up.  [mad]

I did get to try it with the 18V Bit Holder chuck in place and the machine is very well balanced without the drill chuck.

The ASCM 12V is kind of reminiscent of the Festool T12+3 in both body size and handle shape - maybe that is why I like it so much? The grip is even a little bit better than on the T12+3.  The batteries are very small sized and look like toy batteries.
A kit consisting of the MultiTalent, the ASCM, the Impact plus that little LED-light would fit in a Systainer and would make for a nice little kit.

I have no pressing use for it but I like small and capable machines. I think Fein did really well on these.
 
I had bought the fein drill that tool nut had on sale last summer,and never liked it.
The drill seemed awfully big and didn't have a belt hook,plenty of power though.

I was going to leave it in the shop,where the size and lack of hook wouldn't be missed. The next day took it out and ran 6- 2/12" deck screws in redwood before it burned up. Smelled real bad.
Called tool nut and they sent a return slip for ups and sent it back,only to hear from them that they didn't have a replacement for me. Gave full credit back.

I am not trying to bad mouth fein,just saying what happened to me. I have a fein supercut and could not be happier.
The service from tool nut was stellar  btw.
Still need a 18v drill,and am looking at the festool now,but the sale price on that fein was to much to pass.
Charlie
 
Charlie: I believe the 18V Fein line up (drills) were made "not in Germany". I might be wrong about this. They never appealed to me and I was surprised over the line up, bulky and reports similar to yours.

The 12V line up (at least the brush less ASCM)  seems like a bonafide German made machine and an in house Fein construction. Overall the fit and finish and the "haptics" were first rate. Same for the Multitalent multicutter though I would not replace my Supercut with it. 
 
Henrik R / Pingvinlakrits said:
Charlie: I believe the 18V Fein line up (drills) were made "not in Germany". I might be wrong about this. They never appealed to me and I was surprised over the line up, bulky and reports similar to yours.

The 12V line up (at least the brush less ASCM)  seems like a bonafide German made machine and an in house Fein construction. Overall the fit and finish and the "haptics" were first rate. Same for the Multitalent multicutter though I would not replace my Supercut with it.

They are made in Germany and very high quality. I think that Charlie had a bad unit. I like mine even though it is a tad on the heavy side. A right angle chuck would make this a near perfect drill in my opinion.
 
Yesterday i went to a festool store over here. And they re also dealer of fein.  I was looking for a new drill. I also had the fein 14 ascm qx in mind. Butt when i saw i in real i was very dissapointing. I would felt it a rather big drill driver. Also on the top where the gears are located is very wide. When you compare it to a t15 you really can see and feel the difference. Thats why i choose for the t15
 
ScotF said:
Henrik R / Pingvinlakrits said:
Charlie: I believe the 18V Fein line up (drills) were made "not in Germany". I might be wrong about this. They never appealed to me and I was surprised over the line up, bulky and reports similar to yours.

The 12V line up (at least the brush less ASCM)  seems like a bonafide German made machine and an in house Fein construction. Overall the fit and finish and the "haptics" were first rate. Same for the Multitalent multicutter though I would not replace my Supercut with it.

They are made in Germany and very high quality. I think that Charlie had a bad unit. I like mine even though it is a tad on the heavy side. A right angle chuck would make this a near perfect drill in my opinion.
i agree I think I just got a bad one.
I am not saying anything negative about the company,the drill just wasn't a good fit for me.
Charlie
 
ScotF said:
Henrik R / Pingvinlakrits said:
Charlie: I believe the 18V Fein line up (drills) were made "not in Germany". I might be wrong about this. They never appealed to me and I was surprised over the line up, bulky and reports similar to yours.

The 12V line up (at least the brush less ASCM)  seems like a bonafide German made machine and an in house Fein construction. Overall the fit and finish and the "haptics" were first rate. Same for the Multitalent multicutter though I would not replace my Supercut with it.

They are made in Germany and very high quality. I think that Charlie had a bad unit. I like mine even though it is a tad on the heavy side. A right angle chuck would make this a near perfect drill in my opinion.

I'm willing to bet the excessive size is due to the 4 speed gearbox.

Hence why the PDC and DRC are so large as well (and the T18 isn't as bulky).
 
Just to clarify in response to some earliers posts:

Most of the newest generation of Fein drills are made in China.
The ASCM models are made in Germany.

Don't know about the new 12v.

Spare batteries are outsourced from Japan and are shockingly expensive.
 
Got word yesterday that the angle chuck and bit chuck is still in the pipe but no release date yet. Did get official word from Fein Sweden that they will release 5 Ah batteries for the 12V series. :) 
 
Ok, swept by to pester the local pusher today and one of the staff had spoken to the Fein rep who had showed him pictures on his phone on the new angle chuck for the ASCM - and a few other goodies that he could not mention or simply did not recognize - or ask about. One of the other accessories did look like a centrofix quick change bitchuck when he sketched it up from memory - based on shape and colour of the chuck. If so, good news!

The angle chuck looked really well made according to the guy and looked like a unit in production (the guy is a machinist and has an eye for it) so he thought it would not be long before release.

 
Ok, got me the drill. Chucks are en route and should arrive tomorrow. It is a great little drill and very well built.
It feels as good as and perhaps even better than the T18 when it comes to slow driving - it feels verrrrry precise.

After speaking once again with the sales rep he was sure he did see a right angle chuck and drew it up from memory. He also said it looked very solidly machined and that he viewed a high resolution image which assured me he did not mistake the other add ons for a right angle chuck. There is one in the works. :)

I normally use a CXS and a T18 for fitting kitchens and the Fein drill is probably going to replace both when the angle unit arrives as it is nimble enough and has plenty of power. Ordered the LED light and some other extras while I was at it. Since I have been wanting a (preferrably small) impact drill from Festool for years and years I decided to get the Fein Impact and an extra battery and round off the kit with the MultiTalent. Looking forward to putting them to good use.   
 
What are the chances that you can snap some pics of the size differences between the ascm 12, cxs and T18?  pretty pretty please  [big grin]
 
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