NEW! Festool Hybrid 18V Cordless Brushless Sanders - Oct. 2017 (US) - Tool Nut

[Shane Holland]

NEW! Festool Hybrid 18V Cordless Brushless Sanders - Coming October 2017!

PRE-ORDER Festool 18V Hybrid Sanders!

Pre-order the newest additions to Festool's renowned line up of finish sanders - the new ETSC 125, DTSC 400 and RTSC 400. These new sanders offer a hybrid approach to power - choose from 18V battery operation or A/C power! They all feature brushless motor technology to extend battery life and increase performance. Get 30 minutes of runtime from a single battery charge which can be recharged in under 25 minutes, giving you continuous battery power. Each model comes with an included pad protector and dust bag.

Available in three flavors: the BASIC, PLUS and SET. See below for what's included with each model.

Prices begin at $195 for the BASIC model, $400 for the PLUS and $535 for the SET. Order now, ships on Monday, October 2nd.

PRE-ORDER Festool 18V Hybrid Sanders!

Also coming October 2017 are the new PLANEX Easy and SysLite STL 450 Surface Inspection Light.

Important Notes:

The 18V 1.3Ah batteries for these cordless sanders are a new platform called ERGO by Festool. These batteries are NOT compatible with other Festool cordless tools. The A/C adapter is NOT compatible with other Festool cordless tools.

They ARE compatible with the existing TCL 3, TCL 6 and SCA 8 battery chargers.

 

[antss]

Is this per-order period going to last more than two days before its pulled ?  [wink]

 

[TylerC]

Is this per-order period going to last more than two days before its pulled ?  [wink]

We have plenty in stock. Shouldn't be an issue this time. But, of course, don't wait to order yours as soon as you can!  [wink]

 

[Shane Holland]

Tyler, thanks for chiming in! Good info. [thumbs up]

Any other questions from anyone?

 

[nclemmons]

Any idea on sanding run-time on battery before having to recharge?  And how long to recharge a battery?

 

[Shane Holland]

Any idea on sanding run-time on battery before having to recharge?  And how long to recharge a battery?

Good question, [member=167]neilc[/member].

Get 30 minutes of run time from a single battery charge which can be recharged in under 25 minutes, giving you continuous battery power.

 

[antss]

Shane - have you guys put one through its paces yet to verify the real world run times ?

 

[Shane Holland]

Shane - have you guys put one through its paces yet to verify the real world run times ?

[member=727]antss[/member], since these were just announced by FUSA today, we have not gotten demo tools yet. We hope to have them soon and have the chance to put hands on them ourselves. I think like most European brands, Festool typical "nerfs" their numbers. Meaning that the performance is better than reported. These sanders launch in just a few short days in Europe so some of the forum members on the other side of the pond will have an opportunity to share their experiences. I suspect we may also see a great video from our friend, [member=11196]Peter Parfitt[/member] in the near future.

Shane

 

[#Tee]

looks like another hit item!

 

[Stone Message]

Shane - have you guys put one through its paces yet to verify the real world run times ?

[member=727]antss[/member], since these were just announced by FUSA today, we have not gotten demo tools yet. We hope to have them soon and have the chance to put hands on them ourselves. I think like most European brands, Festool typical "nerfs" their numbers. Meaning that the performance is better than reported. These sanders launch in just a few short days in Europe so some of the forum members on the other side of the pond will have an opportunity to share their experiences. I suspect we may also see a great video from our friend, [member=11196]Peter Parfitt[/member] in the near future.

Shane

Hi Shane

We saw these at the Festool Bloggers event last month. Everyone had the chance to try them and I think that they will be very popular.

They can work cordless with a small dust bag, mains powered with an extractor and any combination of the two.


Speak to Toolpig for a second opinion !

Peter

 

[#Tee]

waiting on your review peter! so you can say "brilliant brilliant piece of machinery" lol [tongue]

 

[Stone Message]

waiting on your review peter! so you can say "brilliant brilliant piece of machinery" lol [tongue]

I am reliant on the good grace of Festool UK to include me in the list of writers and bloggers who get to play with the demo kit.

I am not sure if UK dealers have these yet.

Peter

 

[Phil Beckley]

Hi.....cool these are going to be released in the US [cool]
On the 4th September @ 17.00hrs Queen Elizabeth Time  [smile] for the UK the sanders will be shown live and interactive on the UK facebook page this will include the Multi Jetstream 2 pad and the net abrasive - Granat Net  [smile]
Rg
Phil

 

[Cheese]

It'd be real nice to incorporate this style battery into a Vecturo... [cool]

Rather surprised that the run time is only 30 minutes. [tongue]  [tongue]

Seems like a wireless power transfer system could be incorporated in the cover of the systainer and through capacitive or inductive coupling, the sander could be recharged by just placing the sander on the top of the systainer when not in use. That way complete battery change-outs could possibly be reduced to only a few per day.

 

[Gregor]

It'd be real nice to incorporate this style battery into a Vecturo... [cool]

That would be an argument to buy one (given that the mains power adapter works too).

Seems like a wireless power transfer system could be incorporated in the cover of the systainer and through capacitive or inductive coupling

Why increase the energy bill by 10% (loss of indirect charging) when swapping the battery takes

 

[Cheese]

Why increase the energy bill by 10% (loss of indirect charging) when swapping the battery takes

 

[antss]

It'd be real nice to incorporate this style battery into a Vecturo... [cool]

That would be an argument to buy one (given that the mains power adapter works too).

Seems like a wireless power transfer system could be incorporated in the cover of the systainer and through capacitive or inductive coupling

Why increase the energy bill by 10% (loss of indirect charging) when swapping the battery takes

 

[Svar]

Seems like a wireless power transfer system could be incorporated in the cover of the systainer and through capacitive or inductive coupling, the sander could be recharged by just placing the sander on the top of the systainer when not in use. That way complete battery change-outs could possibly be reduced to only a few per day.

But then you'll need to power the systainer. How? Plug it in? Then what's the advantage over regular charger?

 

[aloysius]

The concept of induction charging does have limited merit, esp where time is significantly constrained, for example in production line & industrial scenarios it would be beneficial.  Where there's concerns about water or other material contamination of battery/tool electrical contacts, such as with your electrical toothbrush, the induction interface also makes sense.

Maybe a low powered drill, with its battery conveniently located at the bottom of the assembly can physically support induction charging too.  One doesn't necessarily require a powered systainer either:  instead, the systainer could be filled with a 240/120v charging unit & a large bank of lithium cells & proximity sensors for true cordless charging.  Provided the Systainer was big (& heavy) enough, one could theoretically recharge all day from a single overnight charge.

The practical constraints, however, render the possible benefits & operational convenience redundant.  In tools such as sanders the tool would necessarily require recharging eithe on its side OR upside down to allow intimate contact with the induction field.  For tools with their batteries on the bottom, this is possible, but sanders require their sanding pads to be on the bottom.  Let's not forget the potential dangers to heart pacemakers and other mission critical health monitoring & dosage devices that these rather strong electromagnetic fields represent.

The battery format for the new sanders are cleverly designed to prevent their use elsewhere across the Festo/ol range.  They're specifically designed for low current draw (i.e. gutless) tools: drills, grinders, saws etc. are specifically excluded.  They draw way too much current for small, lightweight mains supply adapters.

If you desperately want your cordless tool to become corded, then you can always cannabilise an old tired battery pack for its tool contact interface & make up your own remote power supply.  Not that I either recommend or endorse such extreme & inappropriate actions.  There's a whole world of extremely well designed, effective and superior performing mains tools already out there;  why would you bother?

The little Festo/ol range of cordless sanders are an extremely well designed package. Whilst there may be question marks over the performance of the 125mm random sander (given the dissatisfaction expressed over the performance of its corded equivalent) the sheer light weight convenience of cordless operation makes the direct drive orbitals ideal for the myriad of small jobs that the homeowner requires.

In fact, for the first time in its history, Festo/ol has finally made a cordless tool that may actually be not just worthwhile and useful, but also of a superior design to its less expensive rivals.

 

[Cheese]

But then you'll need power the systainer. How? Plug it in? Then what's the advantage over regular charger?

The advantage is that you're not removing the battery to charge it. 

I'm sanding and then get interrupted, just lay the sander down on the Systainer and walk away, it's charging.

I'm sanding but then need to use the Domino, just lay the sander down on the Systainer and walk away, it's charging.

I'm sanding but then need to assemble some parts, just lay the sander down.............