New Festool Stuff discovered !

[TinyShop]

More on the adjustable guiderail square:
https://www.machinery4wood.co.uk/Festool-577040-Festool-Angle-stop-FS-WA/P42313

 

[TinyShop]

The adjustable guide rail square is available in a set that includes the improved guide rail connector bars among other items:
https://www.naradionline.cz/sada-prislusenstvi-pro-vodici-listu-festool-sys3-m-137-fs/2-set.html

 

[TinyShop]

Appears to be an extension fence for the adjustable guide rail square featuring a scale and moveable stop:
https://www.naradionline.cz/prodlouzeni-pro-uhlovy-doraz-festool-fs-pa-vl-fs-wa-vl.html

 

[wpz]

Appears to be an extension fence for the adjustable guide rail square featuring a scale and moveable stop:
https://www.naradionline.cz/prodlouzeni-pro-uhlovy-doraz-festool-fs-pa-vl-fs-wa-vl.html

Yes, a bit similar in idea as the TSO PGS, but unfortunately no flip stops

wpz

 

[squall_line]

I'm unfortunately wondering how many of these items will actually make it to the US shores.  With the TSO exclusivity in the US, the Festool-branded rail square isn't over here, so I wonder if the rail guide with the TSO-esqe connector will make it or if they'll be branded and sold by TSO instead.

Is there any official word on the release of the new OF 1010? 

Curious, too, if they'll discontinue the MFT/3 Set and replace the angle finder.

 

[mino]

I'm unfortunately wondering how many of these items will actually make it to the US shores.  With the TSO exclusivity in the US, the Festool-branded rail square isn't over here, so I wonder if the rail guide with the TSO-esqe connector will make it or if they'll be branded and sold by TSO instead.

Is there any official word on the release of the new OF 1010? 

Curious, too, if they'll discontinue the MFT/3 Set and replace the angle finder.

The licensed Festool branded GRS 16 PE is just that. A Festool branded GRS 16 PE. Including the accessory holes for TSO accessories. It is identical to the thousandth of an inch to the TSO branded original.

There a scenario where Festool markets Globally while TSO in US /where they had presence way before/ makes complete sense for TSO and is generally acceptable for Festool.

On the other hand, the new adjustable angle accessory is apparently either a pure Festool design using the licensed TSO connection method or a joint development. There it makes little sense to complicate matters. Further, it is a pretty advanced cast-and-machined thingie which TSO has no way to manufacture at the costs comparable to Festool. A molding set for castings like these goes for some serious $$$.

I can imagine a TSO-branded-but-Festool-made version in the US. But even that would be a stretch. If there is any delay, it is likely to be production capacity related.

 

[Michael Kellough]

They are self stick, but I wonder if you can use them only once to temporarely fix the rail or if you can also use them to hang the rail on the wall and take it on and off.

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Is there any literature accompanying these green things? It looks like it would be very difficult to lift the guide rail off once the green thing is stuck to a surface, so these are probably meant as another way to secure the rail prior to cutting when neither clamps or the Gecko can be used.

Also, there are many in a package so they seem to to be a sacrificial aid like the outboard splinter shoe.

 

[semenza]

They are self stick, but I wonder if you can use them only once to temporarely fix the rail or if you can also use them to hang the rail on the wall and take it on and off.

wpz

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Is there any literature accompanying these green things? It looks like it would be very difficult to lift the guide rail off once the green thing is stuck to a surface, so these are probably meant as another way to secure the rail prior to cutting when neither clamps or the Gecko can be used.

Also, there are many in a package so they seem to to be a sacrificial aid like the outboard splinter shoe.

  I agree. To me these do not look like they are for rail storage. I think they are for mounting rails on vertical, oddball, or surfaces that can't be clamped.

  Just guessing.

Seth

 

[Jim_in_PA]

MFT-HZ 80 577132..... [eek]

Those hold down clamps are interesting.

Yes, kinda of a modern take-off on hold-fasts which I find indispensable in my work.

 

[Cheese]

I'm thinking those green oblong stickies are 1-time use only for adhering the rails to oddball surfaces like Seth mentioned. I think the OSB wall was chosen to underline how strong/aggressive the PSA is on the back of the oblong item.

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[tsmi243]

Edit:
Took some time, but looks someone finally listened - a hose guide compatible with FS/2!

FS/2-AW - part 204787:

Help me out here.  What's new about this one? 

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I'm thinking those green oblong stickies are 1-time use only for adhering the rails to oddball surfaces like Seth mentioned. I think the OSB wall was chosen to underline how strong/aggressive the PSA is on the back of the oblong item.

While I like the idea of that, I see it as a very limited use thing. How many times would this really be a thing? Between the under-rail clamps, the end to end pistol-grip clamps and even the Gecko suction cups, I haven't come across a situation were it would be that important, certainly not enough to consider buying new rails to get it. Plus it introduces another consumable

 

[Cheese]

While I like the idea of that, I see it as a very limited use thing. How many times would this really be a thing? Between the under-rail clamps, the end to end pistol-grip clamps and even the Gecko suction cups, I haven't come across a situation were it would be that important, certainly not enough to consider buying new rails to get it. Plus it introduces another consumable

I agree, it's probably of limited value for most folks, however maybe it does benefit someone that does a lot of solid surfacing or Corian work. I know I could have used it when I was cutting in a lot of HVAC openings in 3/4" thick wooden strip floors.

It would be interesting to know if Festool gives a load rating for those green rail attachments.  [tongue]

 

[Michael Kellough]

MFT-HZ 80 577132..... [eek]

Those hold down clamps are interesting.

Yes, kinda of a modern take-off on hold-fasts which I find indispensable in my work.

And these old school cam clamps.

 

[Michael Kellough]

I'm thinking those green oblong stickies are 1-time use only for adhering the rails to oddball surfaces like Seth mentioned. I think the OSB wall was chosen to underline how strong/aggressive the PSA is on the back of the oblong item.

While I like the idea of that, I see it as a very limited use thing. How many times would this really be a thing? Between the under-rail clamps, the end to end pistol-grip clamps and even the Gecko suction cups, I haven't come across a situation were it would be that important, certainly not enough to consider buying new rails to get it. Plus it introduces another consumable

Pocket cuts in walls.

I once had to go to great lengths to secure the guide rail to make precise cuts in a wall on the hot set of a commercial. I had to use batons and sandbags and C-stands (and more sandbags) and use extra long rail to keep the extra stuff out of the way.

These green things would have been a huge help. The painters would have been pissed if the green things pulled the paint off the wall. Maybe a layer of blue tape would solve that.

 

[Peter_C]

A couple of wood screws hold a rail nicely to the wall for cutouts. A couple of holes in rough construction make no difference.

I won't be buying new rails nor modifying my current rails. I could see the handle cutout being useful for some folks. The Sys-roll carries the rails around nicely after a modification, and moves a stack effortlessly.

 

[squall_line]

The Sys-roll carries the rails around nicely after a modification, and moves a stack effortlessly.

I own two Sys Rolls, although for the time being I only use them for garage storage.  I was today years old when I learned that they have slots for rails on them (it's not even shown in the assembly manual).

I was also today years old when I learned you can stack systainers on them facing backwards to allow you to open a mid-stack systainer if desired.

 

[Peter_C]

I own two Sys Rolls, although for the time being I only use them for garage storage.  I was today years old when I learned that they have slots for rails on them (it's not even shown in the assembly manual).

You will need to take a Dremel type tool and cut out the plastic rib that stops the rails from sliding in. I had to do it to both of my Sys-rolls at least.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

While I like the idea of that, I see it as a very limited use thing. How many times would this really be a thing? Between the under-rail clamps, the end to end pistol-grip clamps and even the Gecko suction cups, I haven't come across a situation were it would be that important, certainly not enough to consider buying new rails to get it. Plus it introduces another consumable

I agree, it's probably of limited value for most folks, however maybe it does benefit someone that does a lot of solid surfacing or Corian work. I know I could have used it when I was cutting in a lot of HVAC openings in 3/4" thick wooden strip floors.

It would be interesting to know if Festool gives a load rating for those green rail attachments.  [tongue]

That's why I bought the Geckos. They are great for Corian and laminate countertops too. They even can take the side load of a router without moving. Occasionally I need to cut in a groove for glass tracks.

 

[DeformedTree]

I can't believe the thread has gone this far and no "comments" about holy rails here.

Festool clearly miss-understood what was being asked when folks said "make all rails holy".  But it brings up something interesting, as these will require additional manufacturing steps similar to making a rail holy.  So I have to wonder if this will be all rails, or if this will be for select rails, like the current holy ones.

It's a nice addition, might mess things up for folks who make custom length rails. 

Does anyone see anything about this that makes the new rail incompatible with the old, or is it just the old rail with lightness added? I wonder if this will come to N.A. or not, since the N.A. rails are now made in Indiana, they would have to add the machinery for this step.