new Festools January 2022 - battery powered CT SYS + MINI/MIDI + KAPEX

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Some news from Prowood, a trade fair here in Belgium for everything concerning wood.  Festool had a booth with some new tools on display. 

KAPEX KSC 60 - 576847
A dual-battery powered Kapex, they had a working demo there. No option to use it corded.

CTC SYS - 576810
dual compact-only powered CT SYS, no 5Ah batteries in this one!

CTC MINI - 577065 and CTC MIDI - 577066
MINI and MIDI running of dual batteries, this one will accept the bigger batteries.  No option to use it corded and obviously no outlet.

Also coming out is a dual charger with simultaneous charging, 6Ah, TCL 6 DUO - 576810 or 576811
 

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These are pretty cool, it was about time for a cordless vacuum.

It’s a shame the CT Sys will not work with the bigger batteries
 
Zoom in on the text of the fiirst attachment, top right. That section is aiming at the CTC SYS and in the text, it says 2 x 18V batteries. Next section down, the one for the Mini/Mid, same thing.

And, it sure looks like there's a bunch of space in the SYS with that 4.0 Ah battery in there.
 
Cool! It's about time Festool got with the program. I'm sure the Kapex C will be popular on site. I'll stick with my KS120.

Thanks for sharing, Hans.
 
I've seen the CTC-SYS in person and I was initially very pleased to see it's going to be available..  The shine went off that very quickly.  Rant follows...  The 4Ah batteries are right up there with the Bott/Sys3 decision as far as I'm concerned.

It's a major disappointment to me that the new CTC-SYS won't take the 5,2Ah batteries.  And it definitely won't, as it needs a pair of batteries to run, but has been designed to take only the 4Ah batteries.  The 'new' ones which are made in China.  Which I will never, ever buy. 

I've bought 4 CTL-SYS over the past number of years.  It's a real PITA that I can't get the Cordless/BT enabled one I'd wanted, but I'm not paying Festool prices to swap out my CTL-SYS, only to have to pay more Festool prices to buy Chinese batteries to go into those new CT's.  That is just not  happening. 

If the batteries are not made in Europe, I'm not buying them.  And if I need chinese made batteries for a Festool tool, I'm not buying that tool either.

The KSC 60 is really nice kit.  I'll be having one of those as soon as they're available.

 
the batterys are made in poland.

on the other hand, my prayers have been asswerd.  either the sys or the mini will jump out at me i predict.  probabley the sys. 

dancin a jig here......

(bet something of that will be NANIA...................)
 
notenoughcash said:
the batterys are made in poland.

on the other hand, my prayers have been asswerd.  either the sys or the mini will jump out at me i predict.  probabley the sys. 

dancin a jig here......

(bet something of that will be NANIA...................)
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The 3,1 and 5,2 are made in Poland/Czech Republic etc.

The 4,0 is made in China.
 
I can only hope it is several orders of magnitude better than other cordless vacuums that are currently being sold.
 
notenoughcash said:
(bet something of that will be NANIA...................)
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I know better than to make bold claims and predictions, but I would honestly be very shocked if any of these items found their way to the North American market.  Definitely not the KSC60, and probably not the vacs.

Also, I somewhat understand not providing for mains power for the CTC SYS, but for the CTC MINI and MIDI?  Even if I needed a cordless DE, that's a pretty serious limitation for a DE of that size.  I mean, they're semi-portable, but not THAT portable that they're not useful in a mains-connected situation.
 
I wonder how long the 4.0 batteries last in the CTC SYS? That looks pretty nice.  [smile]

I used a friend's cordless Milwaukee and it puts out a horrific amount of noise. Convenient...yes, noisy...yes, hurts the ears...yes, would I own one...no.  [crying]
 
I was just thinking about the CT SYS the other day and how it'd take BT and cordless for me to buy one. Guess I have another tool to save up for. The compact battery isn't really a limitation to me I wouldn't be using it all day I envision it for quick jobs that need extraction like the OSC 18 but don't want to haul my big CT up for.

And the prediction these won't come to North America, why wouldn't they? Cordless means easier to bring them over. Even if you had to import it at least there's no mucking around to use them.
 
Cheese said:
I wonder how long the 4.0 batteries last in the CTC SYS? That looks pretty nice.  [smile]

I used a friend's cordless Milwaukee and it puts out a horrific amount of noise. Convenient...yes, noisy...yes, hurts the ears...yes, would I own one...no.  [crying]
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Well, if the Bosch competition (GAS 18V-10 L) is any indication; a single 4 Ah battery with 21700 cells (~= Festool HPC 4 Ah battery) lasts about 14 minutes. But there will be noticeable reduction in suction power before that. Battery won't charge straight out of the extractor either because of temperature protection. I had six batteries and two chargers for drill and vac when I did a bunch of 82mm holes in aerated concrete the previous week. I used ProFit's plug buster pro, so no core to chisel out, I turned the whole 82x55mm into dust. See;

Dual 4.0 might last >2x as long. Lower draw per battery, more efficiency, less power losses.

As for the noise; well, with most machines you need hearing protection anyway.

The battery powered CT SYS looks pretty neat. The Mini / Midi look like they just 'attached' a battery blob.
 
more to the fact, i dont think anyone has noticed that the sys is a sys3............

looks like i am the only one left buying that [big grin]
 
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