HowardH said:
Actually got my hands on the new cyclone today. Not for sale yet, but got a few impressions. The tub looks a bit smallish but I don't think it's much of an issue. The tub also rocks a bit in it's base but that would also make it very easy to remove and replace. I didn't see a bag in the box and I thought it came with one. It may have been in with the rest of the documentation. I really don't think it's going to be too tall, either, nothing like the DD. It's very solid feeling and I would imagine I could go pretty much all day without worrying about emptying the bin. I'm convinced it's a well conceived and executed accessory and will soon find a home on top of my new CT36.
I now have one on loan from Festool UK and no plastic bag was included. However, in the scope of delivery bit on the web site its states that the following is included:
- cyclone Systainer
- VAB-20 collection container
- Systainer pan
- connecting hose
-
disposal bag
- container lid
- in carton
The disposal bags are in short supply at the moment but will be included once the product is released to market.
I have been doing some filming of the cyclone and hope to release a video very soon - when I do I will start a new thread.
My first impressions back up what [member=396]HowardH[/member] has said. It is well made, certainly part of the "System" approach and not too tall. The Festool bags will not be cheap and in the absence of any bag with the demo kit I just used an ordinary black plastic bag - it worked fine.
Interestingly, Oneida go to a lot of effort to keep the bag seated in the their UDD drop box and have an annoying plastic tube which runs from the front of the CT to the bottom of the drop box that sucks the bag in place. There is no such arrangement with the CT VA and it works fine with a bag.
I have built several cyclones from kits and read a little about them on Bill Pentz's web site. The height of the tapered cone can have an effect on the efficiency of the cyclone as far as fine dust is concerned. This can be offset to an extent by the diameter choosen for the upper section. The CT VA 20 has a short cyclone section and so it will be interesting to see how it managed with the fine dust particularly as Festool's imaging for the product shows it in a drywall/Planex context.
I do not believe that this is aimed primarily at the static workshop user. The mobile user, particularly when working on site with other trades, will have the advantage of much longer CT bag life and easier disposal of waste.
Peter
