New member says hi and quick domino test drive

[johne]

Hi everybody, My name is John i am from the Netherlands and an amateur woodworker.
I came across this site while looking for some info on the domino and decided to register.

Some of the work you people do is amazing and a joy to view.

I have been using Festools for about 9 years and have gathered a nice collection so far.

The latest addition was the domino which i purchassed a few days ago. I had some left over 20mm thick oak floor boards
lying around and decided to make  a small 90x90cm, 50 cm high table. The boards were a little cupped so i had to joint and plane
em down to about 15mm, and glue 4 of them together for the legs. The domino was used for the edge joints and the mitres and i
must say it works like a charm. I did not get all 100% smooth joints but they were very close. A few minutes with the beltsander (a festool too)
and the tabletop was flat as can be. I found the domino to be very precise, fast and easy to use and IMO if errors occur they are probably user
induced. Mostly from applying to much pressure. The best way to operate it, for me anyway, is to plunge it while holding it at the back of the machine
(where the power cord is) pushing it forward and not applying downward force.

Added pic i hope i did this right if there is a better way to add images let me know

 

[nickao]

Nice table from a pile of scrap. Welcome.

Nickao

 

[Fred West]

Johne, welcome aboard and very nice piece. I too love my domino and end up putting together things with it just because I can.  Fred

 

[johne]

Thanks nickao and fred for the welcome.

BTW the domino i have is different from the one i had seen before, they have changed the metal adjustable aligning
pins. They are now plastic fixed pins (not sure if thats good but they are accurate)

 

[mastercabman]

Thanks nickao and fred for the welcome.

BTW the domino i have is different from the one i had seen before, they have changed the metal adjustable aligning
pins. They are now plastic fixed pins (not sure if thats good but they are accurate)

fixed pins? are they still spring loaded?do they retract like the metal pins?

 

[Fred West]

Johne, I agree with mastercabman, I too don't understand about your plastic fixed pins???

mastercabman, I love the picture of your shepherds. I have one little 12 week old purebred shepherd girl, one purebred almost 9 month old rottweiler and one 14 1/2 month shepherd/rottie mix.  ;D Fred

 

[semenza]

Hi,

  I like the way the legs miter into the top on your table. Nice.

    I too am wondering about those plastic pins,  I am sure many members here will want to know everything you can tell us about them.

Seth

 

[johne]

The new pins are of course retractable but they are not sideways adjustable.
They are accurate. The only thing I noticed is that due to the shape of the pins,
they won't lock in a previously cut mortise like the "older" round metal pins could.
not sure if this is an advantage or disadvantage.

New pins:

"Old" pins"

 

[Michael Kellough]

The new pins are of course retractable but they are not sideways adjustable.
They are accurate.

There is a saying, "if you can't make it perfect, make it adjustable"

 

[Matthew Schenker]

Good Morning,
That's an odd change?  I'm trying to think, what are the advantages of the new pin design?
Matt

 

[Bob Swenson]

Johne--Love the way You use scrap wood.
That looks like a pro photo on no seam, is that what you do in your other life?
Those pins are a mystery to me!
Bob

 

[slb]

Johne, welcome!  Nice work 

I can see how the plastic reference pins could be significantly cheaper to manufacture than the spring-loaded steel ones.  They eliminate the need for machining holes into the base and fitting the springs, pins, and bushings into them.  But mere cost reduction has never been a strong priority at Festool, so I too am mystified why they did this.  Plus, unless there is some subtlety that isn't visible in your pictures, there is no way to adjust them, which means as things wear you can't tweak them to take out slop.  Perhaps there was some issue that we don't realize?  Maybe Christian O or someone else from Festool can tell us what they were thinking.

 

[johne]

Hi all.

@ Bob Swenson: You guessed right i am a photographer. If anyone's interested There are some samples of what I do at www.everards.com
    (look at the "Fotografie" tab)
@ slb: They included some spares, so if they wear out they re easy to replace (see pic)

 

[Bob Swenson]

Johne, Thought so, what gave you away was the no seam and the fact that you
corrected the legs. Are you using a view with a digital back?
After fifty plus years behind the lens you see these things.
Bob 

 

[johne]

Bob, I havent used the viewcamera in years. I have a "Leaf"digital back on a Mamiya RZ 6x7. This table shot
was a quick picture with a Canon 5D and a tilt shift lens. You 're right, I corrected the perspective of the table legs
not in camera though but in Photoshop. You have a good eye.

 

[Fred West]

Johne, I am with everyone else on those new pins. They completely mystify me and I hope that very soon we hear from Christian O. or someone else.

The photography, however, may mystify me more as I have no idea what you and Bob are speaking about. What seam and what did you do to the legs and can you help mine?  Fred

 

[johne]

Fred,
The perspective of the legs: If you take a picture of, in this case, a table you point the camera downwards from your
point of view towards the subject. Because of this lines (legs of the table) start converging. On a view camera you can tilt the back
panel (where the film plane is) to correct for this convergence. By doing so the legs look parralel again. With digital it is easier you can
use photoshop or other image editing software to correct this.

 

[Fred West]

Johne, thank you very much and I am sure with practice this is something easily picked up but boy even with the explanation it took a minute or so to really SEE the difference. I very much appreciate the lesson. Fred

 

[greg mann]

I found the domino to be very precise, fast and easy to use and IMO if errors occur they are probably user
induced.

Words to live by.

Very nice work, Johne, on both sides of the lens.

Bob, I had forgotten Per had written about your previous careers. You are truly a Renaissance man, unlike that no good kid of yours.  ;D

 

[Bob Swenson]

Greg----Here, here
Johne, you can teach an old dog a new trick.

[attachthumb=#]

Way back in my other life

Bob