New Product Info

[Administrator_JSVN]

Festool USA will be taking an entirely new approach to new product introductions this year with micro websites prior to their launch. These micro websites are product focused and media rich providing the most detailed overview of our products ever.  Learn about the features, specifications, accessories, models, packages and much more!  Definitely plenty of content to fill your appetite for info on new green goodies.

I am excited to announce that we will be launching three micro sites for new products on March 1st on the Festool USA website including one for the completely redesigned MFT/3.  What will the other two products be...? 

More information will be made available in an upcoming SysNotes email newsletter.

 

[Frank Pellow]

Sounds good Shane and I am looking forward to seeing all this on the 1st of March.

I can tell you what I hope the other two products will be:

1) The Compact module syaytem (see:http://www.festool.co.uk/artikel/artikel_weiterleiten.cfm?id=256)

2) Tool Centre cart (seehttp://www.festool.co.uk/mediandowe...&ID_O_TREE_GROUP=1942&PARENT=3671&AKTIVPROD=1)

 

[Dan Clark]

Those look very interesting, but my bet is on the MFK700 and OF2200.

Dan.

 

[Steveo48]

1) The Compact module syaytem (see:http://www.festool.co.uk/artikel/artikel_weiterleiten.cfm?id=256)

I about fell over when I saw this one.  All the talk you hear on this board about how much better it is to have the material stationary and move the tool over your work and what are we trying to do here?  Turn the TS 55/75 into a table saw! 

I love it!  PT Barnham would be proud!  And you know you'll just have to buy another expensive plastic box to hold the accessories in. ;D

 

[Dan Clark]

Sometimes it's better to have the material stationary and sometimes not.  No solution is ever completely right or wrong.

Dan.

 

[Steve Jones]

if your really struggling for some hard and fast rule to live by, how about move the smaller lighter piece (whether that's the wood or the saw)

IE: Ripping thin strips for frames (2" wide) with the TS55 is possible, but so much easier on a table saw, on the other hand I will never, ever again wrestle a full sheet of 3/4" ply accross a tablesaw, its hard work, dangerous, and just plain stupid.

and yes, I sometimes need some ripped 2" pieces on site, but it's easier to carry a pile of ripped 2" strips than my tablesaw.

 

[Dan Clark]

...
and yes, I sometimes need some ripped 2" pieces on site, but it's easier to carry a pile of ripped 2" strips than my tablesaw.

Sounds like you just violated the rule!  ;D  It just depends...

Dan.

 

[Steve Jones]

...
and yes, I sometimes need some ripped 2" pieces on site, but it's easier to carry a pile of ripped 2" strips than my tablesaw.

Sounds like you just violated the rule!  ;D  It just depends...

Dan.

Dan, I meant I rip the 2" stock on my tablesaw (the easy way) and carry the strips to the site, since they are easier to transport than the tablesaw, still following the rule dude!

 

[Dan Clark]

Hmmm...  Might be easier to set up a small contractor's saw on a Rousseau stand at the worksite and rip 'em there.  Just depends. 

Besides, it would be difficult using my tablesaw...  Since I don't have one.  Yep, just depends...  Maybe a DW745 + Rousseau stand?  Perhaps a Bosch 4100 with gravity rise stand?  Wait for the CMS?  Options, options, options...

Buy a big cabinet saw?  Nah.  No place to store it!  (It just depends.)

Dan.

 

[Steveo48]

IE: Ripping thin strips for frames (2" wide) with the TS55 is possible, but so much easier on a table saw...

Certainly, without a doubt a real TS is much easier and faster than using any circular saw system when you have to do multiple rips.  But the drum beat in this blog is portability, and moving the tool over the work (it's soooo much better ya know! : )

I just think it absolutely hysterical that they make a stand to make that mobil tool stationary.  It's no substitute for a real TS.  At some point you have to give up and accept that a larger, solid TS is better for the job that needs to be done.  I'll never give up my little 9" Delta at home just for this reason.

 

[Forrest Anderson]

I just think it absolutely hysterical that they make a stand to make that mobil tool stationary.  It's no substitute for a real TS.  At some point you have to give up and accept that a larger, solid TS is better for the job that needs to be done.  I'll never give up my little 9" Delta at home just for this reason.

It's a funny thing, but I'm not even smirking about the idea placing a TS55 upside down in a CMS, never mind being "absolutely hysterical".

Whilst I totally agree that "a larger, solid TS is better" for some jobs, trying to get one into a van and then setting it up at a customer's house could be a tad tricky. With the CMS, Festool have realised that in some circumstances it's better to pass the wood over the saw, and have come up with a system that allows a TS55 or TS75 to be mounted in a light portable table with folding legs which is eminently suitable for packing into a vehicle. At the same time, the CMS concept also allows one to use a router, jigsaw and belt sander in the same table. Instead of carting a dedicated table saw, dedicated router table, and dedicated floor-mounted belt sander to a site, you just need one collapsible table, and several clip-in modules.

Hmm, on the other hand, I am now smiling a bit, since it's such a neat idea...

Forrest

 

[Eli]

I just think it absolutely hysterical that they make a stand to make that mobil tool stationary.  It's no substitute for a real TS.  At some point you have to give up and accept that a larger, solid TS is better for the job that needs to be done.  I'll never give up my little 9" Delta at home just for this reason.

Hopefully you'll get a chance to give the CMS a try someday. It's not a substitute for a real table saw, it is a real table saw. The difference is it's a real table saw that I don't have to say "Damn, I wish I'd ripped four more of those 2" pieces at home. Oh well, I'll do it tonight after dinner".

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Eli, which saw do you mount in your CMS? I currently own a TS55, and it's worked great for what I ask it to do (mostly breaking down sheet goods and 1x material), but I wonder how well it performs in the capacity of a TS? Can it rip 2x material reasonably well? I imagine the TS75 barely breaks a sweat, I just wonder if I would think the TS55 were slightly underpowered? I don't plan on utilizing a Panther blade with my guide rails, but maybe for TS use it would be well suited? What have your experiences been?

 

[Eli]

I've got the TS55. I haven't picked up my CMS yet, I was using the one at work (w/ TS55) so haven't needed to, and have gotten into other stuff at home over the holidays and haven't needed it (yes, I know the holidays ended quite some time ago, just not for me). It's not super powerful, but it rips 2x stock okay.

The two things that made me go with the CMS instead of a regular Table saw was that you could use it as a base for a router and jigsaw as well, and that all the components strip off it and make it easier to move. Even the rousseau table arguably the best and lightest (besides a bundle of 2" strips) doesn't have a slider, although it has a really great fence.

I think bring the lightest thing is good logic, but sometimes you just don't have the luxury or the time to do all that planning and material prep at home.

The Panther blade, I'll probably just get another regular blade. The Panther worked okay, but it's pretty rough, and that's not most of my work, so I don't love it. It is noticeably faster, but I don't mind taking my time feeding the saw anyway. I might eventually get a 75 as well, just to cover all the bases. Murphy's law would say I'd always want the saw mounted in the CMS though.

 

[Dave Rudy]

if your really struggling for some hard and fast rule to live by, how about move the smaller lighter piece (whether that's the wood or the saw)

The more I think about this, the more sense it makes.  It works for routers and jigsaws as well as circular (table-mounted or topside) saws.  And your homemade CMS system may just be the best answer for those of us in North America who are protected from ourselves by the likes of UL.

 

[brandon.nickel]

Ok, now let's see someone apply this idea to a serious setup including a Biesemeyer-style fence.  I happen to have one laying around from the Lowe's deal a few months back.  Do you think we could come up with a table that would fit the Biesemeyer rails and also incorporate the TS55 as the saw?  If someone wants to give me some inspiration, I'd like to try to make a Festool cabinet-saw.  That'd sure save a ton of money.

So, how should I go about building a table that a Biesemeyer rail system can mount to?  Melamine top?  Metal channel/extrusion for the side or simply hardwood surround?  Anyone ever tried this before?

 

[Steve Jones]

Brandon,

not fancy, but basically a beisemeyer (at least according to the guy who designed it) is a fence designed around a t-square because he got tired of out-of-true tablesaws,

now I didn't go to the trouble of the big rails (in fact a piece of t-track works pretty good) I built this for a customer of those stacking tool cases who's first reaction was (that's great, I need the tablesaw bigger) - so, cheap, simple, has a table saw (based on a circular saw - he doesn't own a TS55, yet) with a router in the other end.

(Clamps to the toolbox stack)

 

[Corwin]

Or, the Incra LS can be mounted on most anything...  within reason, that is 

 

[brandon.nickel]

After I posted this last night I considered that an Incra would be useful for more than just sawing but I happen to have a Biesemeyer, not an Incra.  Anyone want to trade?  ;D

 

[TahoeTwoBears]

Inquiring minds want to know what time the info will be released on the 1st. Are we talking midnight of the 29th? At what point in the world will this time be measured? Doesn't really matter, but I just need to know if I should stay up late................  :

Mike
Pacific Standard Time - USA