New sanding pad

gckc117 said:
I was in a woodcraft in VA today and saw the new pads.  Of course, they had like 3 random pads and no paper.  But one interesting thing I noticed is that there is definitely a 125 pad..... 

I'm having trouble believing Shane is misinformed about there not being a 125 mm version of the new Multi-Jetstream pad. I think this could be a case of mistaken identity.
 
Here is a phone photo of the 125 jetstream pad.  I was kind of surprised too.  I don't go to woodcrafts often since I don't live near one but that place is crazy.  The guys there were super nice and helpful but the one festool related question I asked was met with kind of a blank stare, so I didn't bother asking about the paper and pads.

Graham
 
Ahh got it.  I thought I saw "new" sticker on it.  Sorry.  That place gets me all confused!

G
 
bruegf said:

Fred,

Good catch! You are correct, those are mounting holes for rthe screws to affix the pad to the sander.
Shane is (of course)corrrect - no present plans for introducing the new style pads on the 5" sanders.

Bob
 
If it really was a new multi-jetstream pad, you'd also see the new style of packaging:

Multi-Jetstream-01.jpg

 
Anyone have the part number for the 6" multi-Jetstream pad?  Are there various "flavors" of the pads?  a la soft, hard, long-life, etc?  Or just one?

* Doh, and there it is... took a long break from my computer and hit post without reviewing the new one.
 
Wood_Junkie said:
Anyone have the part number for the 6" multi-Jetstream pad?  Are there various "flavors" of the pads?  a la soft, hard, long-life, etc?  Or just one?

* Doh, and there it is... took a long break from my computer and hit post without reviewing the new one.

Yes, there are various "flavours" of 150mm pad. The one in Alex's photo bears Order No 496149, is designated ST-STF D150/17MJ-FX-H, is described as "Hard, for flat surfaces and narrow edges, high edge strength, new HT fastener", and is for the Rotex RO150FEQ.

Here is the list of the others, taken from the Multi JetStream brochure. Note the machines the pads fit are listed down the right-hand side:

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Forrest

 
I remember being told that the new pad would make no difference in the collection on the 5" sanders.

I also remember reading that, if something is not better, festool will not waste the time or effort to put a product out.

 
Are the new 150mm diameter pads flat?  I ask this because I recently bought a hard pad for my ETS 150/3.  When I got home and removed it from the packaging, I was surprised to find the H&L surface was not flat, that it had a bit of waviness and also was higher in elevation nearer to its center than outside of the outer circle of dust collection holes.  My dealer ordered in a few more hard pads, and when I took my unused hard pad to exchange it, we were both surprised to learn that all of these pads had distortion.  None of the assortment of pads that I have for my ETS 125 and Rotex 125 have any similar distortion.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?  I haven't used this 150mm hard pad yet.

I've got no complaints regarding the dust collection effectiveness of the "old" hole pattern design pads.  The new pads appear more like those of the new DC motor Mirka sanders.

Dave R.
 
Alex said:
Dave Ronyak said:
Are the new 150mm diameter pads flat? 

Mine is completely flat, Dave.

"completely" is a very, very suspicious word.
A number is worth one thousand letters. Or might I say, A number (should be) worth one thousand letters.- Do you own a caliper?
-Off topic-
Should I use quotation marks when quoting myself?
Yikes...
Bill
 
William Herrold said:
"completely" is a very, very suspicious word.

Might be, but then again, I'm a very suspicious character.  [wink]

And what is flat anyway? When I say flat, do I mean flat in a way a space engineer developing the next Hubble space telescope would mean flat? Guess not. When I mean flat, I mean flat enough for making a piece of wood LOOK flat.

William Herrold said:
A number is worth one thousand letters. Or might I say, A number (should be) worth one thousand letters.

That all sounds very poetical, but as with good poetry, the meaning is a bit lost on me.

William Herrold said:
Do you own a caliper?

No, I don't own one. I also don't see what's the point of owning one when this matter is concerned because a caliper is a device to measure distance, not flatness.

I do own two eyes as a matter of fact, and as good as God or nature made them, they can see any deviation in the flatness of a surface, be it 2 mm or 20 meters wide. In Dutch we have a specific expression for it, 'A carpenter's eye'. It means you can very accurately measure distances or see the relation in geometric shapes just by looking at them. It was called that way because it was a skill that especially carpenters would develop over the course of years. Because they were always measuring and shaping stuff and through training it became hard-wired in their brain.

And my eyes say it is flat. :P

Btw, drawing is another hobby of mine, it also develops your sense for dimensions.

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Alex said:
William Herrold said:
"completely" is a very, very suspicious word.

Might be, but then again, I'm a very suspicious character.  [wink]

And what is flat anyway? When I say flat, do I mean flat in a way a space engineer developing the next Hubble space telescope would mean flat? Guess not. When I mean flat, I mean flat enough for making a piece of wood LOOK flat.

William Herrold said:
A number is worth one thousand letters. Or might I say, A number (should be) worth one thousand letters.

That all sounds very poetical, but as with good poetry, the meaning is a bit lost on me.

William Herrold said:
Do you own a caliper?

No, I don't own one. I also don't see what's the point of owning one when this matter is concerned because a caliper is a device to measure distance, not flatness.

I do own two eyes as a matter of fact, and as good as God or nature made them, they can see any deviation in the flatness of a surface, be it 2 mm or 20 meters wide. In Dutch we have a specific expression for it, 'A carpenter's eye'. It means you can very accurately measure distances or see the relation in geometric shapes just by looking at them. It was called that way because it was a skill that especially carpenters would develop over the course of years. Because they were always measuring and shaping stuff and through training it became hard-wired in their brain.

And my eyes say it is flat. :P

Btw, drawing is another hobby of mine, it also develops your sense for dimensions.

You obviously are capable of robotic perfection and have no use for measuring tools.
Forgive me for disturbing your sketching.
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