New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others

[Jmacpherson]

The KS60 has a shadow line and side extensions. Based on the picture, the "upgraded" 120 has side extensions and perhaps other things from the 60 too like the shadow line? I think the 60 also had built in notches/grooves for the guide rail clamps, perhaps that will be incorporate too?

The table saw sounds intriguing but at what price? If it costs more than a Sawstop, people will just purchase a Sawstop model. - assuming it has the tech in it.
Based on the model number I'm guessing a 80mm cut capacity?
Question, if you are introducing a brand new saw, why upgrade the CS50/70? The 50 maybe makes sense but not the 70 unless the 80 is not going to be as portable?

On the bright side there are new 18v tools coming

 

[ben_r_]

Oh cool! Whew! Nothing I want/need. Nice not to have more to tempt me to drop more money!

 

[Gregor]

The KS60 has a shadow line

Which you can completely forget about when using that thing outside (unless at night), while the Lasers on the Kapex 120 are visible at daylight.

 

[DeformedTree]

I find it no different than other companies.  People from forums looking thru various global websites looking for hints.  Been thru the same for other interests.

 

[pingvinlakrits]

Deformed Tree: very well put, and I agree.

I held out for an impact for a long time. It's not a big thing though I was hoping for Festool to bring one out. One that works well I mean, not like the Ti15 which is heavy, overdesigned and underperforming and in a voltage class deemed obsolete by both Festool and the market. Same with the BHC 18 - great little hammer and nice in hand but no light chiseling in the line up? Slight oversight, but again, no biggie in the greater scheme of things.

But all of these perceived shortcomings  - and they are shortcomings as there are other companies offering the features that Festool lack and catering to the same tradesmen, most of which are interested in keeping within one or two battery platforms.

Not too long ago I decided NOT to expand my Festool 18V system and went the other direction: I put together an 18V skeleton crew of the DRC18/4 the C18 and the BHC18 and sold the rest, the T18, the Carvex, the Drywall gun and my other BHC18 since I decided to contract rather than expand my Festool investments.

I went with Hitachi instead for the drill hammer with chiseling, clip on Vac and exchangeable chucks, triple hammer impact, angle grinder, multicutter and jigsaw and all these I got for what I sold the excess Festool gear for. Added the Hitachi 18V drywall gun which works way better than Festool for screw strips. And it was the best change over I've made - better performance and better ergonomics across the board and with the features I lacked from Festool. My only regret is that I didn't make the leap sooner.

I still have a slot open for Festool gear for second fix and assembly work and will give the impact a try for sure - to put a little more meat back on the skeleton crew...  [smile]

 

[tobiaskurz]

I found the first german dealer who has the new KAPEX KS 120 REB listet. There is written "available January 2019".
https://www.contorion.de/elektrowerkzeug/festool-kapp-zugsaege-ks-120-reb-kapex-63277105?q=ks%20120%20reb

The only change compared to the previous model (KS 120 EB) in the technical description i found was the Weight change to 23.1 kg (KS 12 EB had 21.5 kg).

More interesting is the new price. The current model (KS 120 EB) costs 1193,58 € including sales tax. The new model (KS 120 REB) has a 74,5 % higher price with 2082,90 € including sales tax. According to this price increase there has to be more new features accept the heavier weight.

Unfortunately there is no picture available.

 

[grobkuschelig]

Hi Tobias,

I think the price difference might come from the vendor putting in a higher price, as long as the part is not yet available.
This is quite common, to avoid having customers „pre-order“ before the final price is confirmed and having to pay the gap...

Also, pricing for the KS-120 EB currently ranges from 1.516,06€ to 2.482,34€ incl. sales tax on the Festool website, depending on the configuration.

 

[grainhaus]

NEW PICS from @Romfordtools on Instagram.

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[mrboult]

Does it look notably bigger to anyone else, compared to the current midi?

 

[grainhaus]

Thats the first thing I noticed, looks a lot taller than my regular Midi.

 

[Svar]

I'd prefer a turning knob to the touch panel. With a knob you can see current setting when the vac if off.
Perhaps FT planed ahead to potentially control suction remotely.

 

[ben_r_]

I'd prefer a turning knob to the touch panel. With a knob you can see current setting when the vac if off.
Perhaps FT planed ahead to potentially control suction remotely.

Exactly. Membrane keypads like that are prone to failure and wearing through/out. Bad design choice IMO. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see how they hold up.

 

[peter halle]

when it comes to when tools will arrive to either NA or elsewhere I know that everyone loves to speculate and interpret but I would offer a caution that the document posted was not a public announcement and obviously changes can be made to whether or not to bring, timeframe if, etc.

peter

 

[Gregor]

I'd prefer a turning knob to the touch panel. With a knob you can see current setting when the vac if off.
Perhaps FT planed ahead to potentially control suction remotely.

Exactly. Membrane keypads like that are prone to failure and wearing through/out. Bad design choice IMO. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see how they hold up.

I agree with the dislike of membrane keypads and the benefit of tactile feedback from rotating knobs.

Nevertheless, one of my vacs had to make a trip through service as the seal around one knobs axis failed and water corroded the switch - in regard of being water proof the new design has benefits.

 

[ceddy]

I'm a gadget freak and a LCD display on a vacuum sounds over the top even to me, but I suppose when you're paying these prices for it we should demand that it be a color display  [big grin]

Screen, Touch screens, etc don't belong on tools, cars etc.  Just make things more of a disposable item and harder to repair.  Maybe in a few years they will have a "higher end" (costlier) model where you pay more for the privilege to not have a screen.  My guess is they are going down the same route as car makers and others where the reality is doing things with a screen and some ICs out back is cheaper than physical knobs/encoder/wiring/etc,  so it's a cost savings but pitched as luxury, only after knobs and such are gone do people realize what they lost, want them back and now you have to pay more and getting the mechanical controls back is the luxury option.

So true. I really don't care for all these screens in cars. Much less on tools.

 

[bwehman]

I'd prefer a turning knob to the touch panel. With a knob you can see current setting when the vac if off.
Perhaps FT planed ahead to potentially control suction remotely.

My guess is that due to that keypad, this might have some sort of IP water resistance rating.

 

[sancho57]

TKS80 is intriguing as it indicates a deviation from the pull-saw CS50/70 varieties. Tisch-Kreis-Säge simply means "table(circular)saw" and the others are listed as "pull-saws" in german. It might share add ons from the CS70 and if so could be a potentially great small workshop saw? 

Oh well, the impact is on the shortlist. Unless they screwed it up like the Ti15 it is a welcome addition for me.
A cordless Vecturo is nice but I got that tool covered by another brand or two already.

HmmmI wonder if festool is now selling the saw stop under their own name as they recently aquired it and had one one at Festool connect ( still under the saw stop brand name).

 

[Jmacpherson]

If anything new was at Festool connect 2018 the attendees won't share any material on social media/internet until those products have launched.

I was at a Festool roadshow here in South Africa mid October and the rep mentioned to us that he has something exciting (guess that means new?) to share with us but we have to wait about 3 months. So I'm guessing Jan 2019 product launches.

I don't need a Festool impact, have a great Makita already but if they get it right it will be very tempting.

 

[pingvinlakrits]

TKS80 is intriguing as it indicates a deviation from the pull-saw CS50/70 varieties. Tisch-Kreis-Säge simply means "table(circular)saw" and the others are listed as "pull-saws" in german. It might share add ons from the CS70 and if so could be a potentially great small workshop saw? 

Oh well, the impact is on the shortlist. Unless they screwed it up like the Ti15 it is a welcome addition for me.
A cordless Vecturo is nice but I got that tool covered by another brand or two already.

HmmmI wonder if festool is now selling the saw stop under their own name as they recently aquired it and had one one at Festool connect ( still under the saw stop brand name).

I didn't know Festool acquired Saw Stop, and that would make sense; offering a Festool table saw with the saw stop feature.
Will be quite expensive of course...

 

[pingvinlakrits]

If anything new was at Festool connect 2018 the attendees won't share any material on social media/internet until those products have launched.

I was at a Festool roadshow here in South Africa mid October and the rep mentioned to us that he has something exciting (guess that means new?) to share with us but we have to wait about 3 months. So I'm guessing Jan 2019 product launches.

I don't need a Festool impact, have a great Makita already but if they get it right it will be very tempting.

I am covered with the Hitachi triple hammer but if Festool makes a really really nice one it would be hard to resist for me.