New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others

TSK 80 with 210 or 260 mm blade?

If they include SawStop technology, I would guess 260 so as to minimize changes to cartridge.

Will they include a pull saw feature like Mafell or would that compete with Kapex too much?

What will be the advantage of the Festool saw in Europe where I assume the Bosch is still selling their flesh detecting blade stopping saw?

After underestimating the Woodpecker slab tool so much, I do not think I will try to guess the price of the TSK 80.
 
jimbo51 said:
TSK 80 with 210 or 260 mm blade?
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Given festools model names of the past any numbers either denote power requirements (as with the routers) or cutting capacity (as with the TS). So my guess would be the 80 is ment in mm - as the TS 75 uses a 210mm blade and (in rail or CMS use) has 70mm capacity 210 would be too small, the 260mm one (that gives 88mm in the kapex and given a little deeper mounting of the axis as of the retract mechanic) could end up at 80mm.

If they include SawStop technology, I would guess 260 so as to minimize changes to cartridge.
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My guess is they will (it would be quite pointless to buy SawStop if they wouldn't use the technology) and I hope they'll use the same blades that go into the Kapex 88/120. That's at least what I would do as product manager: already existing consumeables both keep production/stocking costs down and do not turn off my customers by forcing to get yet another set of blades.

What will be the advantage of the Festool saw in Europe where I assume the Bosch is still selling their flesh detecting blade stopping saw?
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Bosch dosn't seem to sell them in Germany (havn't checked rest of Europe).
 
Gregor said:
I hope they'll use the same blades that go into the Kapex 88/120. That's at least what I would do as product manager: already existing consumeables both keep production/stocking costs down and do not turn off my customers by forcing to get yet another set of blades.
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Miter (specifically SCMS) and table saw blades are not interchangeable. Because of the degree of freedom during the plunge and how the material is supported SCMS require different tooth geometry to prevent climbing. Even Kapex 60t universal blade has -5 deg. hook angle. Compare it to cross cut table saw blades, which are usually +5 deg. Specialty blades are also different.
 
jimbo51 said:
TSK 80 with 210 or 260 mm blade?

If they include SawStop technology, I would guess 260 so as to minimize changes to cartridge.

Will they include a pull saw feature like Mafell or would that compete with Kapex too much?

What will be the advantage of the Festool saw in Europe where I assume the Bosch is still selling their flesh detecting blade stopping saw?

After underestimating the Woodpecker slab tool so much, I do not think I will try to guess the price of the TSK 80.
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I think the name gives away that it is not a pull saw, but a "regular" table saw.
 
Henrik R / Pingvinlakrits said:
I think the name [TSK] gives away that it is not a pull saw, but a "regular" table saw.
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That would be unfortunate. Pull saw is a brilliant idea. You add cost and marginally weight, but don't compromise any other function by having pull capability.
 
Since buying an ATF 55 in 2003 I’ve only used my very good table saw for ripping stuff less than a foot wide, and very small stuff.

I’ve long thought a portable table saw, as a companion to a plunge cut circular saw, should be in the form of something like a short plank, about 14” wide and 3 feet long, width a pair of wheels on the outboard end.

The new narrow mft add-on would be a good housing for such a portable table saw.
 
Like Micheal, I also have a very good table saw...Powermatic 66 that I added a Jet sliding table (no longer available) and made it larger by adding 8020 2040 extrusions.  The only thing that I've use it for is thin rips and making slots for dividers using Freud's 1/4-3/8" slotting set.
 
On eBay and Amazon a few Festool dealers are discounting the Kapex by 10% or more like they did with the previous tools each time a newer model came out so we should be hearing from Festool soon on the new Kapex.
 
I've been told that the new Kapex has a new lateral support system (added arms or something like this). Haven't seen it yet but I will probably soon.
 
Greenhoe said:
On eBay and Amazon a few Festool dealers are discounting the Kapex by 10% or more like they did with the previous tools each time a newer model came out so we should be hearing from Festool soon on the new Kapex.
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If dealers in the US are discounting the Kapex then I suspect that they are doing it at their own risk.  I never trust ebay and Amazon prices advertised until the shopping cart number comes up.

Peter
 
Peter Halle said:
when it comes to when tools will arrive to either NA or elsewhere I know that everyone loves to speculate and interpret but I would offer a caution that the document posted was not a public announcement and obviously changes can be made to whether or not to bring, timeframe if, etc.

peter
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  Absolutely correct, Pete. As of now, Festool USA has made no announcement - or even hinting,  about what tools and accessories will become available here in 2019. All I do know for sure is that it will be a looooooooooong time before we get all the tools at the same time they are available in Europe.
 
Smoking motor concern fixed?

Other than the side fences, what are the new or improved features as compared to the KS 120 EB?
 
Laser seem to be gone (new one has a led shadow line). No clue if that's an improvement, in case it's the same module as the one in the KS 60 (where it's invisible in sunlight) then IMHO it's a downgrade.
 
Looks like they might have changed something because there is 250mm diamond blade listed as an accessory now which is not on the other Festool sites around the world.https://www.festool.com.au/products...l/250mm-pcd-diamond-saw-blade-16-tooth_f28291

From my understanding and info I've been told by retailers/reps etc. you can only use a 260mm blade on the current version of the Kapex.

Its kerf is 2.2mm vs 2.6mm, bore is the same @30mm but I don't see how 0.4mm is preventing us from using smaller blades currently?
 
Jmacpherson said:
Looks like they might have changed something because there is 250mm diamond blade listed as an accessory now which is not on the other Festool sites around the world.https://www.festool.com.au/products...l/250mm-pcd-diamond-saw-blade-16-tooth_f28291

From my understanding and info I've been told by retailers/reps etc. you can only use a 260mm blade on the current version of the Kapex.

Its kerf is 2.2mm vs 2.6mm, bore is the same @30mm but I don't see how 0.4mm is preventing us from using smaller blades currently?
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Compatibility listing contains the KS 88 (which is a 120 without laser) for that blade, so I guess they only list the new 120 R as the old (EB) one is discontinued.
 
ChuckM said:
Smoking motor concern fixed?

Other than the side fences, what are the new or improved features as compared to the KS 120 EB?
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Smoke will now be routed out thru the side fences to make it less distracting to the user  [tongue]

I would think Festool will have gone to extra measures to make sure there are no issues this time.  If they have failures on the new one, it will be a serious hit to them.  The big question will be who will step up to buy one first.
 
DeformedTree said:
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Smoke will now be routed out thru the side fences to make it less distracting to the user  [tongue]

I would think Festool will have gone to extra measures to make sure there are no issues this time.  If they have failures on the new one, it will be a serious hit to them.  The big question will be who will step up to buy one first.
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Not via some enhancement to the dust collection port? :P :P
 
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