New Woodpeckers items, Guide Rail positioning

[Charles Wilson]

beat me to the punch, i would like to see some pics too.

chuck

 

[Greg_R]

I've been using the Incra T-rule (available with imperial and metric options) in conjunction with John's razor blade method.  I mark through the slots with the blade and then re-insert the blade into the cuts after removing the rule.  I then line up the rail and -voila-... perfect cut.  This would almost be as fast as the story stick method for repeated measurements but is a little more accurate for initial measurements.

 

[Corwin]

Locating the guide rail using the splinter guard is one option, but one may also elect to locate using either the hat or back edge of the guide rail.  These (my) guide rails are very accurate -- straight and consistant in dimension.  Many types of 'story sticks' can be used to locate the guide rail in this mannor.

 

[semenza]

I've been using the Incra T-rule (available with imperial and metric options) in conjunction with John's razor blade method.  I mark through the slots with the blade and then re-insert the blade into the cuts after removing the rule.  I then line up the rail and -voila-... perfect cut.  This would almost be as fast as the story stick method for repeated measurements but is a little more accurate for initial measurements.

Hi,

        I use the razor blades, and have the 6" Incra rule, as well as the 24" Woodpeckers T square. But I hadn't thought of actually marking through the slots of the rule with the blades. I will have to try that!

Seth

 

[honeydoman]

just got an email and this item will be shipped out on the 6th of february, in case anyone is interested.

 

[Jesse Cloud]

Sorry for the stupid question BUT how is this a help?  Repeatability?

Just a newbie to woodworking.  Be gentle.

Chuck

Hey Chuck,
The idea behind a story stick is to measure where things happen on your workpiece (e.g. location of dadoes) and mark those spots on a stick, using one end as reference.  Then instead of measuring for each piece of your project, you simply copy the marks from the story stick.  Two big advantages are ease of use and eliminating chances for error.

 

[Greg_R]

Seth, I use a marking knife in the slots and then push the razor blades into the hole.  This allows me to use a nice hefty tool for making the hole instead of fiddling around with a small hammer and the razor blades.

 

[semenza]

Seth, I use a marking knife in the slots and then push the razor blades into the hole.  This allows me to use a nice hefty tool for making the hole instead of fiddling around with a small hammer and the razor blades.

Hi,

  Good idea. I have been storing the blades  stuck into a 8" long piece of pine 1" x 2". I use the 1x 2 to tap them in. Set the rail , then stick them back into the 1 x 2. But I like the knife idea. Saves the tapping in step.

Seth

 

[Jesse Cloud]

The e-club newsletter that introduced this product stated that the product would ship Feb 6. I don't think that it's "backordered", rather, just a new product that won't be ready for ship till that date. I could use one right away also, but I'll have to wait too. Woodpeckers has some great products and some innovative ideas.

Mine shipped today (Feb 1).  OK, I humbly eat some crow and take back my rant. :-[ :-[

 

[Dave Ronyak]

Thanks for the tips on using the slots in Woodpecker's T-square with marking knives.  I have been frustrated with the razor blade technique on birch plywood.  When I am trying to set the second razor blade, the first one usually pops out!  For that reason, I prefer story stick accessories to set the guide rails for repeat rip cuts from sheet materials.

Dave R.

 

[sw1211]

Woodcraft has the story stick in metric,http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=20558&productid=148747

 

[nickao]

I really like the incra and woodpecker measuring instruments. I have my shop outfitted with just about everyone made. I have used most for over a year and buy all the new stuff at soon as it comes out. I was addicted to incra before Festool.

I just ordered the metric story pole I have the imperial and love it, thanks for bringing it to my attention Steve-CO!

nickao

 

[Corwin]

I am currently in the process of updating some of the jigs and setups I have been using with my Festools.  While I see some new 'story stick' products entering the marketplace, you may want to wait on purchasing said items for at least another week, or so.  Steve's (Qwas) thread on utilizing the MFT's holes for alignment has diverted my attention of late, but the concept has prompted me to make new upgrades to my MFT jigging.  I hope to begin taking some photos in the next few days, and then begin a thread to introduce some of the Incra products and follow by showing some of the ways that they can assits in your Festool operations.  I will cover setups for the MFT along with setups for working off a cutting table.  And, if we are all not too overwhelmed, I may venture into some other areas where these Incra products can be placed into service -- Hmmm, the Domino does come to mind...

Sorry I'm not a little quicker at this, but if you have a little patience with me I think you will like at least some of the items.  So, I'll keep plugging along and hope that I can begin shortly.

 

[Dave Ronyak]

Woodcraft has the story stick in metric,http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=20558&productid=148747

If you substitute for the marking tab a shop made bracket or adapter so you can couple the story stick to a Festool guide rail, you'll have a calibrated side stop of ~3 ft capacity for use with a Festool router or saw.  You might be able to drill through or form a slot in the base of the aluminum channel extrusion at the right locations to enable fastening the story stick to a Festool Limit Stop Item #485827 (page 141 of 2007 catalogue) so that the scales on the story stick can be calibrated precisely to the cut edge of the splinter guard.  Of course, different mounting holes/slots would be required depending on whether the story stick is positioned to extend from the back or the splinter edge of the guide rail.  The Festool Limit Stops have to be removed after positioning of the guide rail prior to using the rail to make a rip cut.  I recently made a set of ~3ft width range side stops by equiping a pair of Limit Stops with dowel rods equipped with shop made adjustable wooden stop blocks.  Everything can be assembled and adjusted using only a Phillips screwdriver (Toolie Tool).  Total cost not including the Limit Stops was about $16, most of which was for the extra metal parts needed for the Limit Stops to grip the dowel rods.  I used Festool OEM components.

Dave R.

 

[Ned]

Dave Ronyak approached Woodpeckers about a metric version of the story stick.  Here's the response:

From: richardhummel [mailto:richardhummel@woodpeck.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:03 AM
To: Ronyak, David
Subject: RE: Story Sticks

David,
We currently make a metric version for Australia and the U.K. We?ve had many requests for a longer unit along with some additional enhancements. You can order the metric version, just call our office 800-752-0725

Richard Hummel
Woodpeckers
Tel:  (440) 230-2442
Fax: (440) 230-2552
woodpeck.com