New Woodpeckers One Time Tool...

[Michael Kellough]

I didn't realize how hard 1/2" was to come by in metric shanks.

I checked a couple of router bit catalogs (CMT European & Onsrud) that offer metric sized bits and they offer metric sized cutters with imperial sized shafts, but not the other way around. The closest ones were several CMT's that were 12.7mm (1/2") in diameter, but they also had 12.7mm shafts.

Lee Valley has it and ships internationally.

 

[Cheese]

Lee Valley has it and ships internationally.

That’s good to know [big grin] I forget about them.  [embarassed]

 

[Steven Owen]

Does it matter what they not claim? It happen to be made on CNC or some line boring machine or whatever. Intended or not the holes are equidistant.

Yes it does matter. If it is not in the specification for the sub contractor making the MFT3 tops then they do not need to worry about accuracy. Everyone who has spent a few years working with CNC machines will know that tools wear and they need tweaking to keep accuracy. If there is no obligation on the sub contractor then why should he waste money making something more accurate than specified?

I suggest that you try the 4 (or 5) cut test on an MFT3 !

Peter

Peter,

I perfer the design of the Parf Guide System you demo in your videos.  They provide you with the rulers to set-up the geometry to align the Parf dog holes seperatly.  You can also use it to make Parf dog holes on the sides of custom tables for holding custom boom arms and other jigs you can make on your own.
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=75354&cat=1,41637

The biggest problem I have with the Woodpeckers Parf dog jig is the fact that it’s a one time tool they may never make again.

If you loose/wear out a part, there not much you can to replace a missing part on a one time tool.

The UKJ Parf dog guide is better choice for accuracy.  The Woodpeckers seems too dumbed down too much relying on pins rather than precise measurements to make sure the holes are positioned correctly.
 

 

[sancho57]

I ordered one. The price ws about the cost of a MFT replacement top. But I find this tool useful unlike some of their stuff.

Things like making work tops etc. since his is a OTT, If I find my self re designing my shop and needing a work bench , assemly table etc, this would do the trick.

Plus i didnt want to be one of those guys who decide to not get it then realize they do need it and post something in the classified hoping someone will sell them one.

 

[Steven Owen]

I ordered one. The price ws about the cost of a MFT replacement top. But I find this tool useful unlike some of their stuff.

Things like making work tops etc. since his is a OTT, If I find my self re designing my shop and needing a work bench , assemly table etc, this would do the trick.

Plus i didnt want to be one of those guys who decide to not get it then realize they do need it and post something in the classified hoping someone will sell them one.

Track saw users beat up their tops all the time.  I’m not sure why it’s being released as a one time tool. 

The Triangles, corners radius tools and the custom dowel maker should just be standard tools.  The dowel maker was very cool.  It allowed you to convert any type of wood species into a any size or type of dowel. 

The dowel press is great way to turn left over small hardwood scraps into something useful for another project like dowel.

 

[Cheese]

The biggest problem I have with the Woodpeckers Parf dog jig is the fact that it’s a one time tool they may never make again.

If you loose/wear out a part, there not much you can to replace a missing part on a one time tool.

That's not necessarily the case, in one instance I needed a part that I lost and in the second I needed the complete tool. I contacted Woodpeckers and each time I received the items within 4-5 days.  [cool]

 

[Steven Owen]

The biggest problem I have with the Woodpeckers Parf dog jig is the fact that it’s a one time tool they may never make again.

If you loose/wear out a part, there not much you can to replace a missing part on a one time tool.

That's not necessarily the case, in one instance I needed a part that I lost and in the second I needed the complete tool. I contacted Woodpeckers and each time I received the items within 4-5 days.  [cool]

It’s good know.  I guess the CNC’s make life easier reproducing parts.  A lot other manufactures making one off tools don’t do a great job supporting them afterwards. 

 

[Cheese]

I guess the CNC’s make life easier reproducing parts.  A lot other manufactures making one off tools don’t do a great job supporting them afterwards.

When I talked with Woodpeckers I was told that they do maintain a small inventory of parts and tools for their OTT product line. That’s the reason they could ship immediately.

A lot smarter than having to break into a production run to machine a widget for some doofus from Minnesota because he lost a part.

 

[jeh]

I ordered one. The price ws about the cost of a MFT replacement top. But I find this tool useful unlike some of their stuff.

Things like making work tops etc. since his is a OTT, If I find my self re designing my shop and needing a work bench , assemly table etc, this would do the trick.

Plus i didnt want to be one of those guys who decide to not get it then realize they do need it and post something in the classified hoping someone will sell them one.

Track saw users beat up their tops all the time.  I’m not sure why it’s being released as a one time tool. 

The Triangles, corners radius tools and the custom dowel maker should just be standard tools.  The dowel maker was very cool.  It allowed you to convert any type of wood species into a any size or type of dowel. 

The dowel press is great way to turn left over small hardwood scraps into something useful for another project like dowel.

The doweling tool is awesome.

 

[Svar]

When I talked with Woodpeckers I was told that they do maintain a small inventory of parts and tools for their OTT product line. That’s the reason they could ship immediately.
A lot smarter than having to break into a production run to machine a widget for some doofus from Minnesota because he lost a part.

After being in business for a while WP could probably estimate how many and which parts they might need in the future based on the number of doofuses who bought their jigs.  [big grin] Considering their customer median age, those are mostly small parts.  [big grin]

 

[Cheese]

After being in business for a while WP could probably estimate how many and which parts they might need in the future based on the number of doofuses who bought their jigs.  [big grin] Considering their customer median age, those are mostly small parts.  [big grin]

Ya Svar, I agree...you’ll notice that Woodpeckers has NOS of their OTT to sell on occasion. Is this because they’re selling the stocked completed tools or just assembling the extra parts they have on hand and then assembling tools to rid themselves of excess inventory. We’ll never know...and I don’t care, as long as they continue to service the products they sell, I’ll continue to be a customer.  [cool]