Not a Festool user…..yet!!

[CharlieC]

Hi there,
I am new to the group and have joined in the hope of getting some advice from experienced Festool users.
I am in the process of purchasing a new sliding mitre saw and both the Kapex KS60 and KS120 are of interest to me.  In my line of work I often cross cut timber into small lengths… but lots of them, several hundred in a batch.  As a result a saw that stops quickly is an advantage to me, soft start is also important.  I have looked on the Festool website and read many reviews but have not saw confirmation that the Kapex saws include these functions.
Can anyone confirm whether these are included with the Kapex saws?
Regards
Charlie

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[EricS]

Thanks, Charlie.

I'm not a Festool owner yet, either. A beginner, I build raised beds out of construction wood and corrugated metal.  Lining up mitered 45 edges are tricky as ou know. Tend to slide, even when braced. Hence, Festool. Wanting to mortise cut 2 x 3 and 2 x 4 slabs or construction wood . Or should I look for a jig?

 

[Coen]

Yes, the Kapex has soft start. Festool machines with suffix 'B' have the brake. Sometimes, 110V models do not have it while the 230V models do. From what I can see, even all the current 110V models of the Kapex have the 'B' too.

I can't find the soft start part on the US website either and in the Dutch site it's there in the code, but not visible anywhere  [eek]
Either way, the video reviews will show you both the soft start and the brake.

Thanks, Charlie.

I'm not a Festool owner yet, either. A beginner, I build raised beds out of construction wood and corrugated metal.  Lining up mitered 45 edges are tricky as ou know. Tend to slide, even when braced. Hence, Festool. Wanting to mortise cut 2 x 3 and 2 x 4 slabs or construction wood . Or should I look for a jig?

No, make your own thread instead of hijack this one.

 

[MikeGE]

What are the chances that two new accounts would be established one minute apart and posting in the same thread six minutes apart?

 

[Crazyraceguy]

What are the chances that two new accounts would be established one minute apart and posting in the same thread six minutes apart?

A bot responding to a bot?

 

[six-point socket II]

What are the chances that two new accounts would be established one minute apart and posting in the same thread six minutes apart?

A bot responding to a bot?

Highly likely.

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[CharlieC]

I can assure you that I am very human and not a bot!
I am based in Scotland and prepare timber in high schools for pupils to make woodworking projects, hence the need to cut hundreds of small pieces of timber.  Apart from fixed machines I provide my own tools and want to upgrade my mitre saw as it is my most used power tool.

 

[six-point socket II]

That is re-assuring! Thank you!

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Well [member=82130]CharlieC[/member] in that case, I'll offer the advice I was given.
When I was making a big purchase, to replace my equipment (after a fire) the "Festool specialist" at my dealer advised me against the Kapex. His opinion was that the volume of cuts that I do (in a big cabinet shop) would likely overwhelm it. There are times when I do a lot of cuts, multiple days a week, and other saws would stand up to that better. I had always used a Dewalt and never had an issue, other than dismal dust collection.
I took his advice, so I can't say if a Kapex would have done ok or not.
The warning against, while potentially losing a sale, seemed to be genuinely looking out for me.
There are people who love them too, so this is just one anecdotal case.

 

[Michael Kellough]

What are the chances that two new accounts would be established one minute apart and posting in the same thread six minutes apart?

The content of the two posts does not follow the pattern of bots.

 

[CharlieC]

Thank you all for your advice.
I currently use a DeWalt 777 which is quite robust but I would like to upgrade to a double bevel saw, I won’t need the functionality for my day to day work but it will be useful for other work and personal projects where accuracy is important.
I will continue my research and investigate other makes as well as Festool.

 

[Packard]

Hi there,
I am new to the group and have joined in the hope of getting some advice from experienced Festool users.
I am in the process of purchasing a new sliding mitre saw and both the Kapex KS60 and KS120 are of interest to me.  In my line of work I often cross cut timber into small lengths… but lots of them, several hundred in a batch.  As a result a saw that stops quickly is an advantage to me, soft start is also important.  I have looked on the Festool website and read many reviews but have not saw confirmation that the Kapex saws include these functions.
Can anyone confirm whether these are included with the Kapex saws?
Regards
Charlie

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Are these simple cut to lengths or are they miters?  There are much faster machines available for both, but lacking in versatility. 

 

[jeffinsgf]

Charlie,

Please forgive the bot comments. We've been seeing them pretty frequently lately and folks are a little gun-shy.

My question for you is the typical thickness of material you're cutting when you're doing your hundreds of small pieces. If you're not cutting crown molding or 3" thick stock, I would suggest you look at a smaller saw. Specifically, the Metabo/HPT 8" slider. I have a 30 year old Hitachi and a 2-year old Metabo/HPT that are basically the same saw. They are both fine machines and have served me well. I would prefer to have 2 of the older ones, but that would have required forethought when I was in my 30s, and I wasn't long on that back then.

This particular design has superb balance. Between the lighter weight, the quality of the linear bearings and the design balance, you can run the saw all day and never feel like it is getting the better of you. I can't say the same for 10 and 12 inch machines, and I'[ve use quite a few of them. The dust collection on the Metabo/HPT is pretty good in a push-cut, but below average in pivot cut or pull cut.

I have used the Kapex a little, and will tell you that I have never seen a miter saw with dust collection efficiency that matches the Kapex. I don't have enough time on it to give you much of an opinion on running it steadily.

I build props and demonstrate tools for an American tool manufacturer, and the rest of the guys who work in the shop made fun of the little Metabo/HPT when I bought it. Now I have trouble keeping them away from it.

 

[Michael Kellough]

“I have a 30 year old Hitachi“. That old 8” slider was new it started a revolution!

 

[Packard]

Charlie,

[…]I have a 30 year old Hitachi and a 2-year old Metabo/HPT that are basically the same saw. They are both fine machines and have served me well. I would prefer to have 2 of the older ones, but that would have required forethought when I was in my 30s, and I wasn't long on that back then.

My dad used to say (in the 1960s) : “After the war (WWII) a loaf of bread was $0.05.  If I had the foresight, I would have bought 100,000 loaves of bread.  I’d be a rich man now.”  [big grin]

(A loaf of bread was about $1.00 at the time, and $100,000.00 was considered a fortune).

I think “Foresight” would make a neat brand name for a machinery maker.

Order your Foresight Miter Saw today. [big grin]

 

[Duckler]

To the OP - how precise do your pieces of wood need to be. Maybe a Radial Arm Saw would be a better tool for your situation.
Or some kind of setup with a track saw. Either way you could cut a good batch of boards at one go. Depending on whether they are rectangular in cross section (vs.square) you would have some decisions to make.

 

[woodbutcherbower]

No, make your own thread instead of hijack this one.

A nice warm welcome to a new FOG member there. Way to go, Coen.

[member=82131]EricS[/member] Welcome, buddy. You’ll find a huge amount of knowledge and expertise right here. Good people with lots of good advice. Please forgive my fellow member.

[member=82130]CharlieC[/member] Welcome also. Sassenach Morton supporter right here. We all have our crosses to bear  [sad] FWIW - Take a read through this. It mentions my personal experience of the Kapex;
https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/...4-day-in-out-a-georgian-period-panelled-room/

Best wishes from the UK
Kevin

 

[MikeGE]

The content of the two posts does not follow the pattern of bots.

 

I defer to your apparent superior knowledge in this, but I was referring to the second post, not the original.  This type of posting does follow bots and scammers based on activities in the discussion boards I own, owned, and moderated.

 

[Packard]

Hi there,
I am new to the group and have joined in the hope of getting some advice from experienced Festool users.
I am in the process of purchasing a new sliding mitre saw and both the Kapex KS60 and KS120 are of interest to me.  In my line of work I often cross cut timber into small lengths… but lots of them, several hundred in a batch.  As a result a saw that stops quickly is an advantage to me, soft start is also important.  I have looked on the Festool website and read many reviews but have not saw confirmation that the Kapex saws include these functions.
Can anyone confirm whether these are included with the Kapex saws?
Regards
Charlie

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Are these simple cut to lengths or are they miters?  There are much faster machines available for both, but lacking in versatility.

No answer on my question.  So here is an example of an automated cut to length line.

 

[Doug S]

I guess it's for safety reasons but I would like it if there was some way of locking the Kapex on so you could leave it running when making multiple cuts. I could be wrong but the constant on/off cycles with the soft start and the electric brake kicking in must cause a lot of heat and can't be good for the motor where a constant running motor might run cooler? If I'm going to be making a lot of cuts I turn my extractor on to manual and just leave it running, it seems better than it cycling on and off every few seconds with the saw.