OF 1010 solid edge banding prefinished plywood

[Carpe Diem]

I am contemplating building some cabinets using prefinished maple plywood and 10mm solid wood edging. How good are the results for flush trimming with the OF 1010 when using the "shoe/bridge"? Can you get flush with the plywood without gouging the finish? Not interested in sanding the edging because that would also scratch the prefinished plywood. Thoughts or recommendations? FYI  I don't currently own the 1010 but would purchase the router specifically for these cabinets.

 

[rljatl]

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[tjbnwi]

I trimmed the edge of this table with the 1010 and lipping plate. The plate is accurate enough I was able to undercut the edging with the Formica in place so the applied finish aligns to the tip face of the Formica.

I also use the MFK 700 it is equally as accurate. This edge is 7/8", beyond the reach of the 700.

The finish is my go to finish, I know the dry film thickness for each coat.

Tom

 

[peter halle]

Is it possibles? Yes.  Should you practice on something else first?  Yes.

But before you decide to go this route you might want to check to see if the accessories for the 1010 are available.  I seem to recall that they were being discontinued here in the US.

Peter

 

[fshanno]

FYI, Minwax Clear Gloss Wipe On Poly does a pretty good job of making light scratches in prefinished ply disappear.

I couldn't trim solid edging with a plunge router and a small straight bit cleanly enough to eliminate the need for sanding, with a plate or a bearing or anything.  I would end up with a bit of chatter, small tear outs and even be small burns here and there.  Sanding would be required.

When I use prefinished ply I go with prefinished edge banding or face frame cabinetry.

I true lipping planer might be a horse of a different color, I don't know cause I don't have one.  But you can add another $210 with the $440 a 1010 would cost and you can buy a  Virutex edge lipping planer. 

 

[Stone Message]

Hi [member=60762]Carpe Diem[/member]

I have done this many times and it works brilliantly. I do cover it in detail in my OF1010 videos but you can see a demo at about 2 minutes in from the start of this video:


As said above, do have a practice and what you are practicing is the setting up of the router and the ability to hold it flat on the surface as you progress.

Peter

 

[Roseland]

Yes, it works brilliantly, but practice on another piece first and don't take off more than a millimetre on each pass.

To be doubly sure I get a clean result I use a copy bit with a bottom bearing.

Andrew

 

[Stone Message]

Yes, it works brilliantly, but practice on another piece first and don't take off more than a millimetre on each pass.

To be doubly sure I get a clean result I use a copy bit with a bottom bearing.

Andrew

I do too and forgot to mention it.

Peter

 

[ben_r_]

Is it possibles? Yes.  Should you practice on something else first?  Yes.

But before you decide to go this route you might want to check to see if the accessories for the 1010 are available.  I seem to recall that they were being discontinued here in the US.

Peter

Are you referring to the Festool 486052 Angle Arm (LINK) and Festool 486058 Edging Plate (LINK)? I hadn't heard those are going away and they still seem to be available everywhere. Where did you hear that?

 

[ear3]

Only thing to add to what's been said is that the Festool instructions recommend flush trimming with the router bit raised slightly off the surface -- that's true if you're not using a bottom bearing guided flush trim bit.  But if you do have a bearing on the bottom, you can go right ahead and allow the bearing to touch the surface (just be careful that it only kisses the surface -- too much pressure and it will create a small indentation that will require a cleanup sand).  Results are brilliant.  I don't think I've ever not had to do a quick sand, however, after flush trimming the edge.  Nothing extensive, but because of imperfections in the wood there's almost always a part that has to be touched up by hand.

 

[peter halle]

Is it possibles? Yes.  Should you practice on something else first?  Yes.

But before you decide to go this route you might want to check to see if the accessories for the 1010 are available.  I seem to recall that they were being discontinued here in the US.

Peter

Are you referring to the Festool 486052 Angle Arm (LINK) and Festool 486058 Edging Plate (LINK)? I hadn't heard those are going away and they still seem to be available everywhere. Where did you hear that?

I just called Festool USA and was told that the two item numbers are still current.  Sorry for the bad info.

Peter

 

[ben_r_]

Is it possibles? Yes.  Should you practice on something else first?  Yes.

But before you decide to go this route you might want to check to see if the accessories for the 1010 are available.  I seem to recall that they were being discontinued here in the US.

Peter

Are you referring to the Festool 486052 Angle Arm (LINK) and Festool 486058 Edging Plate (LINK)? I hadn't heard those are going away and they still seem to be available everywhere. Where did you hear that?

I just called Festool USA and was told that the two item numbers are still current.  Sorry for the bad info.

Peter

No worries, Im just glad they arent going away. I just bought the setup and an OF 1010 and if they were going away I was worried they might be coming out with replacements.

 

[kono0014]

I have a kitchen I am working on and am dealing with a similar issue but with curly maple so it is risky to trim because if you get tearout you are kind of SOL.  Here is what I am going to do:
http://www.finewoodworking.com/2012/05/10/trim-plywood-edging-flush-simply-and-safely

I purchased the Whiteside Ultimate Trim bit with the top bearing.  Probably could have bought the dual bearing bit.  Ultimately the solution is a lot less expensive and the risk is a bit lower with tearout.

 

[ben_r_]

I purchased the Whiteside Ultimate Trim bit with the top bearing.  Probably could have bought the dual bearing bit.  Ultimately the solution is a lot less expensive and the risk is a bit lower with tearout.

Ive got the dual bearing bit. Crazy nice router bit, but man they cost a fortune. Never trimmed up edge banding on the router table, I think I feel safer taking the router to the workpiece for that task, but its something to keep in mind I suppose for smaller pieces.

 

[peter halle]

[member=58821]ben_r_[/member]

I am certain that I read that they were going to be discontinued.  I haven't needed them but decided to get them for the future.  I made inquiries and was told that they were on backorder but more were expected.  I remember thinking that Festool was doing something stupid because other makes of routers don't have all these accessories.  I don't know what happened but something had to have been written to get me into the buy it now before it goes away mode because I am so cautious with tool expenditures these days.

Glad to see that they are available for the reasons above.

Peter

 

[Carpe Diem]

Thanks for the responses, lots to consider. I did play around with the concept of flush trimming pre finished maple with solid edging today using a router table. I could see how it would work well for narrow parts but i think it could be a struggle with 24" wed base cabinet parts.

Upon further research I wonder if the MFK 700 would be more suitable for flush trimming 10mm solid stock on pre finished plywood. Thoughts from your own experiences are appreciated. I am looking for speed, precision and accurate results above all else.

Thanks

 

[johnbro]

Thanks for the responses, lots to consider. I did play around with the concept of flush trimming pre finished maple with solid edging today using a router table. I could see how it would work well for narrow parts but i think it could be a struggle with 24" wed base cabinet parts.

Upon further research I wonder if the MFK 700 would be more suitable for flush trimming 10mm solid stock on pre finished plywood. Thoughts from your own experiences are appreciated. I am looking for speed, precision and accurate results above all else.

Thanks

Well that's what the MFK700 was designed to do, so yeah, it works brilliantly for edge trimming. For other trim router stuff, maybe not as well as the Bosch.

 

[peter halle]

[member=58821]ben_r_[/member]

I am certain that I read that they were going to be discontinued.  I haven't needed them but decided to get them for the future.  I made inquiries and was told that they were on backorder but more were expected.  I remember thinking that Festool was doing something stupid because other makes of routers don't have all these accessories.  I don't know what happened but something had to have been written to get me into the buy it now before it goes away mode because I am so cautious with tool expenditures these days.

Glad to see that they are available for the reasons above.

Peter

Well, it turns out that FESTOOL did discontinue the accessories at one time and it was confirmed by FESTOOL here.  http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/attachment-that-not-everybody-know-is-in-the-market-for-of-1400-of-1010/msg460771/#msg460771

Start reading about reply 30.

Peter

 

[ben_r_]

[member=58821]ben_r_[/member]

I am certain that I read that they were going to be discontinued.  I haven't needed them but decided to get them for the future.  I made inquiries and was told that they were on backorder but more were expected.  I remember thinking that Festool was doing something stupid because other makes of routers don't have all these accessories.  I don't know what happened but something had to have been written to get me into the buy it now before it goes away mode because I am so cautious with tool expenditures these days.

Glad to see that they are available for the reasons above.

Peter

Well, it turns out that FESTOOL did discontinue the accessories at one time and it was confirmed by FESTOOL here.  http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/attachment-that-not-everybody-know-is-in-the-market-for-of-1400-of-1010/msg460771/#msg460771

Start reading about reply 30.

Peter

Huh, that was only 5-6 months ago too. I wonder what made them change their minds. Either way Im glad Ive got all the accessories already. Now I dont have to worry about it either way