One for the Aussies...

[Michael1960]

Between the price rises, fixed pricing and the sad state of promotional catalogues, I really feel Tooltechnic are putting all their eggs in one basket - that being the quality of the actual Festool product. Somewhat risky seen s its the only thing they don't directly have any control over.

Tooltechnic are doing a fantastic job of removing any and all goodwill I feel towards them or my interest in new Festool products. Wonder if/how that's translating to profits?

Mike - well said.
For these reasons I have avoided visiting my Premium Dealer and I've saved fortune.

 

[mike68au]

I haven't been in for 3 months.... and if price rises are coming in Jan, i think that i'll be staying away longer..... + i really just don't need anything other than a Festool 18V Impact and that ain't happening anytime soon

I wish i could kick Sugar as quickly as i have visiting my Premium dealer.... for Festool.

 

[Kev]

Well ... I grabbed a BS105 today. Probably saving $100 on the price hike!

Something I hadn't realised, the adjustment of the unit relative to the floating base is incredibly fine. Talking to Rob at Northern Abrasives - you'd never bother with something like an RS200 on a table top of work top any more, you'd use this puppy and then go straight to your ETS for the higher grits. We'll see [smile]

Still haven't been able to convince myself to hit the button on the Conturo. It seems really odd that I can get something like a Felder FB510 for the same money [huh] (yeh, yeh - different animal and all that). Sadly the Felder needs a bit more space than a Systainer [crying]

 

[Holmz]

Thanks [member=32319]Larso[/member]
I may try that 2-pack DeBeer and see how it goes.

 

[Stephen B]

[size=13pt]Today, in Melbourne, I visited my favourite dealer. Noted plenty of signs offering 10-20% discount on accessories. Twenty percent on related accessories if you purchased a Festool tool.  [smile]

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I also looked at some Milwaukie drills for the first time. Thought the finish was a little rough on some edges. Was surprised by this. Leaving aside Festool, the Metabo finish looked much better.

 

[Kev]

[size=13pt]Today, in Melbourne, I visited my favourite dealer. Noted plenty of signs offering 10-20% discount on accessories. Twenty percent on related accessories if you purchased a Festool tool.  [smile]

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I also looked at some Milwaukie drills for the first time. Thought the finish was a little rough on some edges. Was surprised by this. Leaving aside Festool, the Metabo finish looked much better.

[member=19746]Untidy Shop[/member]

I actually think that some of the Milwaukie tools are extremely well designed, but then manufactured to a price that compromises the end product. It's a real shame because I (and if I was colour blind) would have considered them as a tool range supplement over Metabo.

 

[Stephen B]

[size=18pt]Happy New Years Day to all Aussie Festoolvians.
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Festool have released a new Promotions Catalogue today which includes the release of the Cleantec Systainer Vac. Thanks to [member=56306]Davesbuildtips[/member] for pointing this out in his review at -
[size=10pt]http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tool-reviews/cleantec-ctl-sys/msg435791/?topicseen#msg435791
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The other new products are two Syslites and larger Storage Systainers. But no sign of the HK55 corded. There is also a genuine promotion this time with $50 cash back on Cordless tools. See details at -[size=10pt]http://www.festool.com.au/WebRoot/S...aigns/Festool_Jan-March_Campaign_Brochure.pdf
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But in welcoming in the new year there are the foreshadowed Price Rises. In some cases modest in some not, but given the fall of the Australian dollar during last year, these rises could have been worse. May indicate Festool Aust purchases in Euros rather than Dollers US. Only my speculation. Some price rise examples -
Kapex 120 -  A$1795 to 1895
C18 Basic - A$379 to 399
PDC 18 Basic - A$425 to 449
HK55C Basic -  A$525 to 559

 

[DB10]

Happy new year to fellow members!
  [member=19746]Untidy Shop[/member]  My Carvex in basic cordless form has gone up in price by $100 in a little over a year, that's a 25% increase.
Just looking through the latest promotions and I think they could have kicked off the New Year with some much better deals. As these promotions are only going to work if your prepared to spend big.
That $50 dollar cash back isn't a cash back it's $50 dollar off your next tool spend. So it means more money spent to save a few dollar.
How about a decent promotion like introducing a discount on newly released products for a limited time, something like $50 off the new CTL Sys or $25 off of the new systainers just to get the year started.

 

[Stephen B]

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Happy new year to fellow members!
  [member=19746]Untidy Shop[/member]  My Carve . . . . . . .
That $50 dollar cash back isn't a cash back it's $50 dollar off your next tool spend. So it means more money spent to save a few dollar.
How about a decent promotion like introducing a discount on newly released products for a limited time, something like $50 off the new CTL Sys or $25 off of the new systainers just to get the year started.

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Happy New Year DB.
Yes I misread the Cash Back Offer [due to NYE Hangover  [eek]  ]. I can only agree with you and it favours big purchases rather than those who purchase irregularly (apart from Consumerables).
[member=42735]DB10[/member]

 

[Kev]

http://www.festool.com.au/WebRoot/Store/Shops/tooltechnic/MediaGallery/files/campaigns/Festool_Jan-

[member=19746]Untidy Shop[/member]

Am I reading the brochure correctly?

Container Boxes
Plastic container box 60x60x71/6 SYS-SB | 500066 | $19
Plastic container box 60x120x71/4 SYS-SB | 500067 | $23
Plastic container box 180x120x71/2 SYS-SB | 500068 | $25

For stupid little plastic boxes ... does the /n mean you get n for the $'s ?

Cripes!!

 

[Stephen B]

http://www.festool.com.au/WebRoot/Store/Shops/tooltechnic/MediaGallery/files/campaigns/Festool_Jan-

[member=19746]Untidy Shop[/member]

Am I reading the brochure correctly?

Container Boxes
Plastic container box 60x60x71/6 SYS-SB | 500066 | $19
Plastic container box 60x120x71/4 SYS-SB | 500067 | $23
Plastic container box 180x120x71/2 SYS-SB | 500068 | $25

For stupid little plastic boxes ... does the /n mean you get n for the $'s ?

Cripes!!

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Yes Kev you are; it's a continuation of their  'Basic Tool +' marketing concept.  [big grin]

Looked a reasonable unit until I too realised the actual internal  structure was extra! [eek] Of course they would say they are providing flexibility.
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[member=13058]Kev[/member]

 

[Grakat]

Silly question......

I know the tools cannot be purchased through Amazon et al, but what about the accessories. Some of the accessories appear to be cheaper on Amazon et al than they do through Tooltechnics.

Regards
Graham

 

[Kev]

Silly question......

I know the tools cannot be purchased through Amazon et al, but what about the accessories. Some of the accessories appear to be cheaper on Amazon et al than they do through Tooltechnics.

Regards
Graham

Yes and Yes.

If shipping is an issue, use a service like shipito.com

Careful on exchange rates and shipping charges ... and be aware of the $1K point as which you'll get stung coming into Oz.

In all honesty it ends up being marginal compared to walking into a shop and waving the cc.

 

[Grakat]

Fair enough.

I guess that I need to judge each case on its individual merits. There are some things like the quick action clamps that you can almost get 2 for the price of one, as they are $89.00 each locally.

Regards
Graham

 

[Kev]

Fair enough.

I guess that I need to judge each case on its individual merits. There are some things like the quick action clamps that you can almost get 2 for the price of one, as they are $89.00 each locally.

Regards
Graham

A few years back, buying Festool accessories and consumables from the US made A LOT of sense. I got several big boxes full of "stuff" back then. The crash of the Aussie dollar relative to the $US has made it less attractive. It's also far less attractive from UK/Europe.

There's several US manufactured things I looking at buying but I'm hesitant as I don't think it's the optimal time to buy if I don't have an immediate need.

 

[DB10]

Fair enough.

I guess that I need to judge each case on its individual merits. There are some things like the quick action clamps that you can almost get 2 for the price of one, as they are $89.00 each locally.

Regards
Graham

A few years back, buying Festool accessories and consumables from the US made A LOT of sense. I got several big boxes full of "stuff" back then. The crash of the Aussie dollar relative to the $US has made it less attractive. It's also far less attractive from UK/Europe.

There's several US manufactured things I looking at buying but I'm hesitant as I don't think it's the optimal time to buy if I don't have an immediate need.

As [member=13058]Kev[/member]  mentioned a few years ago when the Ausie dollar was high it was an attractive proposition to purchase from overseas. But now it hardly seems worth the bother especially for items like clamps. When you factor in the airmail charges and possible long wait because the overseas dealer says he has something in stock and he doesn't and then you find out the item you ordered is on back order with Germany and then add to that the risk of items just not turning up, suddenly popping into a local store and picking things up becomes pretty hassle free.

For me now I would only order from overseas if it was an item that I really wanted and was just not available in Australia.

 

[doctr-dan]

Festool hasn't made it great for shops seller there products have they....

Other than hopefully the shop person can answer a question a question or two you may have or advise this way or that way but other than that why wouldn't you just order it from festool direct and have it delivered to your door.

Eg, I could order the ctl sys and probably have it delivered to my door by Thursday, maybe Friday at the latest or I can have the closest festool dealer hold one for me when they come in , maybe Friday and then drive 35 mins each way

 

[Kev]

Festool hasn't made it great for shops seller there products have they....

Other than hopefully the shop person can answer a question a question or two you may have or advise this way or that way but other than that why wouldn't you just order it from festool direct and have it delivered to your door.

Eg, I could order the ctl sys and probably have it delivered to my door by Thursday, maybe Friday at the latest or I can have the closest festool dealer hold one for me when they come in , maybe Friday and then drive 35 mins each way

I'm still incredibly surprised that Festool Germany haven't smacked Tooltechnic for effectively competing directly with it's resellers. Can't imagine any new retailer choosing to range Festool in Australia under their current model ... I certainly wouldn't bother!

 

[DB10]

Festool hasn't made it great for shops seller there products have they....

Other than hopefully the shop person can answer a question a question or two you may have or advise this way or that way but other than that why wouldn't you just order it from festool direct and have it delivered to your door.

Eg, I could order the ctl sys and probably have it delivered to my door by Thursday, maybe Friday at the latest or I can have the closest festool dealer hold one for me when they come in , maybe Friday and then drive 35 mins each way

Festool Aus has thrown a few crumbs to their dealers by way of giving them a small commission on  your online sales, you might notice when you buy online you have to nominate a dealer, this usually equates to your local dealer and they will then pick up some commission, all part of the price fixing agreement that came in last year.
But I agree with you when you factor in an hours drive and fuel it can be just easier and cheaper just to place an order online and sometimes just as quick.

 

[Michael1960]

If you buy online directly from Festool Australia and you need warranty service will Festool organise pick up from your home / place of business?  I would not want to take it to a retailer when I bought on line.  Why should a dealer support me when they are not involved in the transaction.  In any case my nearest dealer is a pretty ordinary outfit....