One handed track holders for garage doors or walls.

[phr0Ze]

I came up with some track holders. I didn't want anything near the splinter guard. I also didn’t want to have to turn knobs. Just lift and go. Being a garage door it needed to hold on even upside down.

So far so good in limited testing. The holder does not work with track squares attached so I’m making a separate holder for that.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Apparently I am missing something, How do they work?
If those little clamps are screwed to the door, it seems that the track slides in from the side? That's hardly "lift and go"

 

[phr0Ze]

You lift the track and pull the bottom towards you. Thats it. The design uses gravity to keep the track from coming out while upside down.

 

[ChuckM]

Not a track owner, and living at a place with very very cold winters, even if I were one, I dare not hold anything of weight on the garage door. But looking at the nice (friction fit?) design, I have one question: would wear and tear on the the contact points of the plastic clips be a concern in the long run?

 

[TSO_Products]

Folks,
your missing the principle behind the design of this type of track storage bracket:
expect to see more on the internet by Dead On Workshop.
The principle works entirely based on gravity.

If interested, email me: info@tsoproducts.com  attention Hans

 

[ChuckM]

Obviously we did miss something. But to be fair, there wasn't much explanation given about how it actually worked.

 

[hdv]

I suspect there's a lip behind the rail that hooks into the slot at the backside.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I suspect there's a lip behind the rail that hooks into the slot at the backside.

A pic of the thing without the rail, might have made that more obvious.

 

[hdv]

Indeed

 

[Vondawg]

Wow quite the welcome to someone new to the forum, just sharing a solution to their problem

 

[ChuckM]

Someone is sharing and others are asking for more info. sincerely -- a good sign of interests -- and that's a problem?!

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Wow quite the welcome to someone new to the forum, just sharing a solution to their problem

I'm certainly not condemning the thing, looks interesting actually. The post is odd though? It's just a "throwing this out there" rather vaguely, and leaving no information about either making them for yourself, or when/if someone could be making them for sale?
Even a simple "would anyone be interested" would have been helpful.

 

[MikeGE]

Welcome to the FOG!

The clips are an interesting solution if you have the space to dedicate to only one track.  I have several tracks in my shop, with limited wall space, so I store them on a set of brackets with the splinter strips up.

What keeps the track in place when the garage door is raised and the unsupported edge applies torque to the clip?

 

[Michael Kellough]

It is clever, and uses less material than other designs.

 

[rst]

Not only clever it can be easily made without a printer by using thick ABS and a router table...looks like another just try it project.  As far as keeping on when door is opened, a simple toggle mechanism along the bottom edge will fix the fall off problem.

 

[Michael Kellough]

Apparently it already works when the door is open. See last pic.

There must be a short tab that hooks into the rail’s backs slot but it would have to be short enough that if the door was jostled too much the rail could come loose.

But I’m uncertain how this works given how shallow the recess in the visible part is. Maybe there is some springiness to the material and/or design of the part that fits into the back slot?

 

[Bugsysiegals]

It appears as though the bracket does indeed go behind the rail and likely has a tongue that fits into the back with the tail being removed by sliding to one side and then back the other way.

I’d like to mount my 3000mm rail but don’t want to drill into my door and worried how well some 3M adhesive or such will hold up in the cold winter where perhaps it will peel off.

OP, can you elaborate on these points?

 

[phr0Ze]

I apologize for the delay, I'm new here and I wasn't sure what details would be most relavent on the original post. Here are some of the many prototypes including a few that used springs. In the end, gravity based is working better and easier to print than spring based. If I have the door open and I wack the track with lumber or something there is still a chance of it falling. Depending on how hard you hit something, even plastic could break or screws could rip out. I'm a careful person but should I try to fix these concerns? At what point are risks sufficiently addressed?

The ones mounted to my garage now are PLA. However they are also designed to allow easy printing in other materials with zero support. It is also designed with the ideal layer alignment for strength. Being winter PLA is fine and is actually quite rigid. My garage gets warm in the summer but not blistering. I may see how the PLA does or move to ASA.

The design also allows the top screw to be placed while mounted on the track so the track itself can be used for alignment. A slide in name plate is used to hide the screw and make the holder more attractive. The slide in name plate also allows various compatible brands to be interchanged. Working alone, I found hanging these while holding up a track was not practical.  I ended up measuring and marking for my second track. I liked working that way better. Spacing of 24-28" seems ideal but still testing.

I'm working on holders for my TSO Parallel Guides and square.

I hope I addressed all the questions.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

That's a lot clearer.
I like the spring idea for mounting on door that might get opened, while the track is in place, but agree that it's probably not necessary in a static situation.
You mention 24"-28" as an ideal spacing. What size track are you testing there? The FS1400 that generally comes with the saws? I would think that the longer tracks are more challenging to store, but the total volume of such tracks out in the wild would be lower too? You wouldn't be able to fit anything longer than a FS1900 on a one car garage door anyway, but up high on a long wall, might be ideal for a lot of guys. You don't typically use those long rails as often. It might take multiple "sets" of these for a FS3000 rail.

 

[festal]

[member=79320]phr0Ze[/member] how does one get them?  are they for sale? file available for self printing?