Ordered a Hammer A3 31

Bob    I'd Love to have your ramp for my A3-31 that I'll be picking up on Friday but your just a bit to far to go to get it , about 2700 miles :)
 
montyss said:
Bob    I'd Love to have your ramp for my A3-31 that I'll be picking up on Friday but your just a bit to far to go to get it , about 2700 miles :)

I used one of those chain-ratchet-type-hoists that car people use to wrangle engines about, to lift my A3 from the pallet and fix the wheels on. In my shop there is a very strong beam that makes this easy to do.
 
[member=66813]rmhinden[/member]

Bob, thanks for the info on the Magports and the 5 inch Fernco coupling to adapt them to the A3 jointer/planer.  Attached picture should look familiar. 

The Magports are a greatly improved way to disconnect and reconnect the dust hose on my J/P. 
 

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Good luck with your new A3 41. Excellent machine.

I have the A3 31. It's a smaller and slightly different machine but the plastic shroud that connects the dust collection hose to the flip-over dust collection hood on the machine is of similar design. The plastic part is attached to the metal hood on 2 of its 4 sides by 6 pop rivets. The other 2 sides do not seal against the metal hood. They are close, but there is a gap that allows significant loss of vacuum.

I've had my machine since 2006 and never noticed the gap until a few days ago when the plastic part split away from the its lip where the pop rivets attach. The plastic failed due to the weight of the dust collection hose over the years when the machine is in thickness planar mode. When I examined the part up close, the gaps were very obvious on both sides, but under normal use, one does not view that area at an angle to reveal the problem.

Duct tape would solve the problem (and in this case would actually be doing exactly what it is meant for). But the problem shouldn't exist. A bead of caulk would be appropriate. Take care not to let the dust collection hose put strain on that shroud.

Rich
 
Rich4242 said:
Good luck with your new A3 41. Excellent machine.

I have the A3 31. It's a smaller and slightly different machine but the plastic shroud that connects the dust collection hose to the flip-over dust collection hood on the machine is of similar design. The plastic part is attached to the metal hood on 2 of its 4 sides by 6 pop rivets. The other 2 sides do not seal against the metal hood. They are close, but there is a gap that allows significant loss of vacuum.

Rich,

Thanks, good advice.  I will take a look at mine and see if I can close up any gaps in the shroud.

Bob
 
rmhinden said:
Rich4242 said:
Good luck with your new A3 41. Excellent machine.

I have the A3 31. It's a smaller and slightly different machine but the plastic shroud that connects the dust collection hose to the flip-over dust collection hood on the machine is of similar design. The plastic part is attached to the metal hood on 2 of its 4 sides by 6 pop rivets. The other 2 sides do not seal against the metal hood. They are close, but there is a gap that allows significant loss of vacuum.

Rich,

Thanks, good advice.  I will take a look at mine and see if I can close up any gaps in the shroud.

Bob

In the last picture above, with the machine in thickness planer mode, that nicely-designed hose with magnetic fittings is putting strain on the plastic shroud exactly as mine has. It needs some support to take the flexing force off the shroud.

In standard jointing mode, the collection hood outlet points much more downward, so the weight of the hose is pulling more vertically and not flexing the plastic at the pop rivet line.

Rich
 
Rich4242 said:
In the last picture above, with the machine in thickness planer mode, that nicely-designed hose with magnetic fittings is putting strain on the plastic shroud exactly as mine has. It needs some support to take the flexing force off the shroud.

In standard jointing mode, the collection hood outlet points much more downward, so the weight of the hose is pulling more vertically and not flexing the plastic at the pop rivet line.

Rich

In practice (not how it is shown in the picture), I loop the hose over the jointer beds to get it out of the way.  I think this reduces the stress on the shroud.

Thanks,
Bob
 
rmhinden said:
Rich4242 said:
In the last picture above, with the machine in thickness planer mode, that nicely-designed hose with magnetic fittings is putting strain on the plastic shroud exactly as mine has. It needs some support to take the flexing force off the shroud.

In standard jointing mode, the collection hood outlet points much more downward, so the weight of the hose is pulling more vertically and not flexing the plastic at the pop rivet line.

Rich

In practice (not how it is shown in the picture), I loop the hose over the jointer beds to get it out of the way.  I think this reduces the stress on the shroud.

Thanks,
Bob

Yes. I also loop the hose over the raised bed. Yet the plastic broke all the way across the shroud on the upper lip. It took 14 years to do that, so no great worry. Didn't have a chance to contact Felder USA today. I will tomorrow. Hopefully the part is available. Super glue and duct tape are saving the day for now.

Rich
 
Max Fracas said:
[member=66813]rmhinden[/member]

Bob, thanks for the info on the Magports and the 5 inch Fernco coupling to adapt them to the A3 jointer/planer.  Attached picture should look familiar. 

The Magports are a greatly improved way to disconnect and reconnect the dust hose on my J/P.

Which coupler are you using? When I looked at Fenco web site and their drawing for the 1056-55 it shows an ID of 5.5 that looks way too big for a 5 inch magport or 120 mm hammer port.

Thanks
 
rmhinden said:
Max,

Glad it was helpful.

Bob

Same question as just posted on the post above:

Which coupler are you using? When I looked at Fenco web site and their drawing for the 1056-55 it shows an ID of 5.5 that looks way too big for a 5 inch magport or 120 mm hammer port.

Thanks
 
xxrb2010 said:
Same question as just posted on the post above:

Which coupler are you using? When I looked at Fenco web site and their drawing for the 1056-55 it shows an ID of 5.5 that looks way too big for a 5 inch magport or 120 mm hammer port.

Thanks

Right, the 5" Fenco coupler is too big with out modification.  What I did was to cut a section out of it and glued it back together with CA glue to have it fit the 5" Magport.  You can see the seam in a few of the pictures I posted. 

This is still too big for the 120mm (4.72") Hammer outlet.  I put several layers of Silicone Rubber Self Fusing Tape on the 120mm outlet to make the diameter larger.  Only took a few layers.  The 1 1/2" size that I linked to was the right width.

Hope this helps.

Bob

 
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