Painting Doors using HVLP
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Are you making good money doing this? Im not asking as someone interested in spraying for money but as a contractor who just finds the price of speciality work interesting.
Certain specialties I can charge what I feel are rediculous numbers, just interested if spraying a package like that is extremely profitable for you.
Certain specialties I can charge what I feel are rediculous numbers, just interested if spraying a package like that is extremely profitable for you.
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I know Tom pretty well and I'd lay odds that its a win win. It's cool too see someone with a diverse and high level skill set who is INTO it, has fun with it and is willing to take on things that are challenging, if not downright risky, as a craftsman performing at a high professional level.
There is no better way to learn.
I bet his numbers work...
There is no better way to learn.
I bet his numbers work...
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rizzoa13 said:
Yes.
Both phases of the job were where they needed to be.
Justinh is the one who helped me on this job, we were able to stain 99 doors one day, seal and 2 coat those 99 doors the next day. The install was 350 miles away, we'd pack the trailer, arrive at the job, pack in and distribute. Install 33 rooms of casework or doors in 8 hours. Eat, pack, sleep be home the next day to do it all again.
Below is a link to the prototype doors and casework I fabricated for this job. They loved the doors, just not the 675K price tag for them.
https://picasaweb.google.com/tbadernwi/ClevelandRocks
You should never feel you are charging a ridiculous number. You are charging what the job os worth and keeping you business healthy. I have no problem walking away from a job if I get an iffy feeling or the numbers wont work.
Believe it or not, I'm not a finisher, I'm a remodeling contractor.
Tom
Very cool work. I used to do commercial shower glass installs along this line. We'd get a Sea box of panels and doors delivered on site and just start depositing the checks.
So how did this work for you, did you outsource the construction of the doors and have them delivered to your shop where you finished them and then took to be installed? I only ask that because they showed up on a huge truck.
Like I said before, large scale commercial style installations are interesting to me as I've done it and see the profit to be made.
So how did this work for you, did you outsource the construction of the doors and have them delivered to your shop where you finished them and then took to be installed? I only ask that because they showed up on a huge truck.
Like I said before, large scale commercial style installations are interesting to me as I've done it and see the profit to be made.
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Due to the budget, it was cheapest to have purchase the doors from a large manufacture. Those are hollow core luan doors slabs.
If they would have gone with the prototyped doors I would have had IAP veneer the panels, stave cores for the rails and stiles would have come up from Georgia. Machining, assembly and finish would have been done by us in the shop.
IAP;
http://iaplywood.com
Tom
If they would have gone with the prototyped doors I would have had IAP veneer the panels, stave cores for the rails and stiles would have come up from Georgia. Machining, assembly and finish would have been done by us in the shop.
IAP;
http://iaplywood.com
Tom
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Shelving for media unit finished with Water based satin "shaded white" sprayed with Earlex 550.
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Completed unit which is actually on castors!
I would rather have scribed the top and sides to the walls etc and fixed it in place but client wanted a mobile unit as there are mountains of cabling behind so at least it's easily accessible without removing any of the amps, sat receivers and games consoles.
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Completed unit which is actually on castors!
I would rather have scribed the top and sides to the walls etc and fixed it in place but client wanted a mobile unit as there are mountains of cabling behind so at least it's easily accessible without removing any of the amps, sat receivers and games consoles.
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tjbnwi said:
Must be a country where they don't see much waterborne.
If the post was in reference to SMJoinery's photos, the first is obviously wet and laying down...and looking like it will be just fine. Pretty darn good work with an Earlex if you ask me.
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Thank you and you are spot on, they were just sprayed.Scott Burt said:
I'm just relieved I didn't post the video of me spraying them. [scared]
I quite like my Earlex "straw" but I think Tom's vids of his Fuji in action are making me think of a kit upgrade! [tongue]
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Tom how do you think the cordless would work for a few bookcases finish wise
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Nice work. I use my Earlex 5500 both stains and top coats and the Earlex 6003 for everything else. Having great success laying down paint. When spraying waterborne products, make sure you read the TDS and get the recommended wet mils value. BM Select likes to go one thick.
Cheers,
Cheers,
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TheTrooper said:
Well, with some practice. I suggest spraying water on vertical glass for practice, if you can get it on evenly and it doesn't run you have it figured out. You have move very quickly with the hand held.
If you don't have a hand held get the one with the collapsable cup/liner, it sprays upside down. If it won't accept FF tips, let us know, there are mods for that.
Scott may know if they have an extension for the tip, that would be nice for inside the casework.
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tjbnwi said:
That's a good question. The simple answer is no, I don't like the handhelds as a choice for installed cabinet grade.
That said, my initial test and review of the first gen proshot was back in 2010 when they came out, and the first thing I did was shoot 60 or 70 cabinet parts and pieces all horizontally (shelves, doors, etc) prior to install. You can get cabinet grade finish out of it in that sense.
Here is a link to that:https://topcoatreview.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/gracoproshotreview.pdf
And that was before there was any pressure control on them, just wide open.
Since then, we have also done cabinet carcasses prior to install (again, laid horizontally), and you definitely have to stand back and keep moving. The units are too bulky to go inside cabinet boxes so you have to shoot into them, and it is tough not to load the corners. So it is like a series of mist coats with a gun that doesn't really specialize in mist coats.
Vertically on installed cabinets, I wouldn't have much interest in. I am not aware of an extension for the tip...
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