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I don't know if anyone can help, but I've got a fairly big refurbishment job coming up on an apartment in Paris and as I think I'm going to have to redo the ceilings and walls, its seems like a perfect excuse to buy a Planex - over here its about 2000 euros with the dedicated vacuum, but if its any good it could pay for iteself on this job alone.  My question is, does any one have any input about the Planex, or if not have any of you tried similar tools (I know that there are quite a few others available in the US)?

I can't find "spackle" that you can sponge here and my taping "sucks" so sanding is inevitable.  Any input would be very welcome.

Thank you in advance

Richard
 
Richard, this isn't my area of expertise, I've read here about using other festool sanders (Rotex, ETS).

  For anyone that hasn't seen the Planex, here is  Festool's IPT site. Click on the  your language,>Planex >details for more info and videos.

  Hey Lou, does the guy in the videos look familiar?? No wonder his miters looked like crap, he's really a drywall guy.  ;)
 
Richard,
    I've never used one but I splurged 2 years ago and hired the sheetrocking done in my garage.  The guy that did the mudding used one and it left a flawless mud line.  No dust whatsoever and it was quick.  It wasn't a Festool and I don't remember what brand, but if you do sheetrock on a semi-regular basis I could see owning one.
 
Steven in Iowa said:
...It wasn't a Festool and I don't remember what brand....

Steven--

This one?

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Porter-Cable 7800

Ned
 
I once rented a Porter-Cable like the one in the picture.  I had to do a bedroom that still had all the furniture in it.  You still had to do the corners by hand because it won't fit into the corner.  But, it was fast, light, and dustless.
 
My RO150E with Brilliant 220 and CT33 did a great job on my garage.  The vacuum shut itself down a couple of times to cool which was disconcerting, but this is after several hours of full-speed running.  I wouldn't want to hold it over my head though...
 
I might mention that when the sheet rockers did my garage, they used a water filtered vacuum.  I think that was a big factor in the equation for dust free sanding.
 
Steven in Iowa said:
I might mention that when the sheet rockers did my garage, they used a water filtered vacuum.  I think that was a big factor in the equation for dust free sanding.

My RO150E with Brilliant 220 and CT33 did a great job on my garage.  The vacuum shut itself down a couple of times to cool which was disconcerting, but this is after several hours of full-speed running

The Planex has it's own dedicated extractor that's specially developed to deal with the plaster dust. It moves more air than the normal extractors, and has self-cleaning filters (and other special goodies as well, probably!). Festool do not recommend using any of the CT extractors for plaster dust as it's very destructive.
 
The Planex has it's own dedicated extractor that's specially developed to deal with the plaster dust. It moves more air than the normal extractors, and has self-cleaning filters (and other special goodies as well, probably!). Festool do not recommend using any of the CT extractors for plaster dust as it's very destructive.
I assume plaster includes drywall although they're a little different...  as the CT22 is my cleanest vacuum, its' what I used earlier today to suck up a room full of drywall dust.  Any recommendations on how to undo the damage done ?  The bag seemed to get most of the fine dust.  I guess new filters would be the first thing.
 
MarkV said:
The Planex has it's own dedicated extractor that's specially developed to deal with the plaster dust. It moves more air than the normal extractors, and has self-cleaning filters (and other special goodies as well, probably!). Festool do not recommend using any of the CT extractors for plaster dust as it's very destructive.
I assume plaster includes drywall although they're a little different...  as the CT22 is my cleanest vacuum, its' what I used earlier today to suck up a room full of drywall dust.  Any recommendations on how to undo the damage done ?  The bag seemed to get most of the fine dust.  I guess new filters would be the first thing.

I was told by a Festool rep that plaster/drywall dust (I was meaning both in my earlier post) clogs the filters very quickly, and running a CT with severly clogged filters does overload, and hence overheat, them. That's why the Planex extractor has self-cleaning filters.
 
I've used the Porter-Cable 7800. It's heavy. It works, but it's heavy! Expensive too for what it is........$459. Although a lot cheaper than the Planex.
 
Hello people (first post),
I bought a Planex a couple of weeks ago. I haven't really used it in anger yet, however it is very good. \i used it with my CT33. The Festool rep said the the CT33 is up to the job, but with the Planex attached it would eat through filters. As I don't intend to use the Planex a great deal, I will stick with the CT for now.

The rep also sold me sanding dics without any holes, he said it would be the same at dust collecting as the dics with holes! He was correct, however it would not suck to the wall or ceiling without the holes. He replaced all the boxes of discs I bought with holed discs and let me keep the ones without holes, made my day ;D

When I get to really use the Planex I will let you know more, all I got to say now is it is quite heavy and the systeiner is BIG. Going to have to re-rack my van for this fella!
 
Seems a long time ago that i first posted about the Planex.  Well, I bought one - with the dedicated vac.  The apartment is long since finished and I've done another house with it since so I guess it has paid for itself.  It's heavy and cumbersome at first but once you get used to it, works like a charm/Festool.  One problem is with ceilings, that if the surface is really out, the vacuum effect doesn't work and your shoulder and arm muscles get a serious work out.  Once you've got things reasonably smooth, you can regulate the suction so that it virtually holds the sander against the ceiling, making work much less tiring.

I did have a problem with the dedicated vacuum - it automatically clears the filters every thirty seconds, but after extensive use (I bought a second filter so that I could clean one with compressed air while using the other) it seemed that each time the filter cleaner process occurred suction was lost.  After taking the thing apart - (I never knew you could have printed circuits in a vacuum cleaner) - turned out the electro-magnetically operated pistons which activated the filter cleaning syytem were sticking (too complicated for my liking).  They now work fine after I cleaned them and lubricated them with silicone spray - I've no idea if that was a good idea but it works.  Since then, when I've had just a small area to sand I've used the vacuum with a regular paper filter bag - thus keeping the main pleated filter clean.  Don't know what caused the problem, but there was a fair amount of dust inside the motor - sheetrock/plasterboard/spackle dust does seem horribly fine.

I've not got any jobs on at the moment that recquire the Planex so its sitting idle in its jumbo systainer, but the dedicated vacuum is doing a good job trying to keep up with the Kapex.

As an aside, from looking at other European vacuum manufacturers i see that the Planex vacuum is not a Festool design.  I don't know whether they make it under licence or get it made for them in their colours.  Whilst it's OK, I prefer my CT 33 which  is a real workhorse - just have to remember to change the bag as it can really pack them full.
 
The overriding benefit of the Planex is that it can make the amateur nearly as good as the professional. Given that your average professional merely skims the joints in a craftsmanlike way, he doesn't need a Planex like I do. God I wish I could skim!
 
I think you summed  it up pretty well.  I can't skim either (my plastering is almost as bad as my woodworking!), but I can't find any tradesmen in France who are willing to do it either.  Someone I know got a team of Egyptians in to replaster her flat in Paris.  May be there could be a good opening for all those underworked plasterers in England?
 
I build extensions for a living, I mean I oversea them. I found that on occasion I was having to make good to certain bits of plastering with my festool sanders. RO125 & a small square one that I can't recall the model number (very un-Festool of me).

Anyway, I now put the job right with the Planex. Also I am going to do some renovating in my house and.... who am I kidding, I have slipped further down the black and green plastic slope.

Haven't really used the Planex yet, nut I will and when I do I will let you know if it really was worth the ?800.
 
richard.selwyn said:
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As an aside, from looking at other European vacuum manufacturers i see that the Planex vacuum is not a Festool design.  I don't know whether they make it under licence or get it made for them in their colours. ...

A while back when I was shopping for a tool activated vac with automatic filtercleaning, I noticed the similarities in the designs of the offerings of most brands. The protool version (and the festool version for the planex), and the makita are probably made for them by Nilfisk-alto. The hitachi, milwaukee, bosch, metabo,spit versions are probably made by starmix.

The CT is not a Festool design by origin either, as forum member Frans pointed out in this thread
 
The perfect place for the Planex is in a rental facility. It is almost too expensive for a do it yourselfer and most drywallers don't have a need for the Planex . Give the home handyman a chance to rent one for  a week or two and you could probably make some money

Dan CLermont
 
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