Planning garage cabinets - materials?

live4ever

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I'm planning some garage cabinets to replace some old shoddy-built ones that don't use space effectively.  There will be 3 banks of approx. 8 ft. runs of cabs., 7ft. tall.  I'll be building them with the 32mm system for maximum modularity and flexibility.  That means I'll have more vertical members than I'd have with face-frame construction but I just prefer the open feel of frameless for utility storage.  

Now, for joinery and material.  I'd like to use either pocket-screws and glue or dominos and glue, but want to keep the cost of sheet goods down (let's just say that this is a project that benefits mostly my shop and wouldn't be high on my wife's priority list!).  C-2 paint-grade maple or birch runs just under $50 a sheet.  Prefin C-2 birch is about $50/sheet.  Alternatively, ultralite MDF is $30/sheet, a considerable cost-savings, but would probably require some effort when it comes to sealing/prepping the edges for paint.  With the prefin birch, I can just edge-band (if I want) and leave it as-is...c-2 isn't the prettiest, but fine for the inside of cabs.  I'm thinking prefin is going to save me a lot of a time and effort.  The MDF is cheapest.  

Thoughts?

 
Melamine.  Edge band with some Fastcap adhesive banding.

Inexpensive but very durable.

 
Right, that's another good option...minus the heft.  I have a love-hate relationship with the stuff because I'm using a bunch of it right now for some concrete forms.

Would dominos + glue suffice for melamine, or would I have to use confirmats or something?
 
Have to confess an affinity for pre-finished in any form, huge time-saver and minimal real cost differential when you factor in the cost of paint/finish.

Also the drops from the plywood sheets make better shelves than MDF.

Just my  [2cents]

RMW
 
If you want to paint - try MDO and edge band.  I would do prefinished and do a separate toe kick made of MDO and faced with PVC.  I don't trust concrete floors.

Peter
 
Peter Halle said:
If you want to paint - try MDO and edge band.  I would do prefinished and do a separate toe kick made of MDO and faced with PVC.  I don't trust concrete floors.

Peter

I don't think I can get MDO easily locally.  I was planning on setting the cabs on a 2x4 base/toekick to deal with the concrete.  That should be ok, right?

I think I'm leaning towards the prefin ply, but I need to do up a cutlist and see what I'm really talking about cost-wise.
 
MDO-pre primed, water proof fir core.

Combo core-plywood core-mdf smooth top surface.

PanOlam-avalible in various laminate faces.

Ultra light- seal the edges with TB III cut 50% with water, Seal Coat works also

My first choice is PanOlam. Set on a 2x4 ladder base.

If you have a Domino, use it for panel alignment, Kreg screw to limit the need for clamps.

Chose your hinges carefully, you may need both full crank and half crank hinges.

Tom
 
live4ever said:
Peter Halle said:
If you want to paint - try MDO and edge band.  I would do prefinished and do a separate toe kick made of MDO and faced with PVC.  I don't trust concrete floors.

Peter

I don't think I can get MDO easily locally.  I was planning on setting the cabs on a 2x4 base/toekick to deal with the concrete.  That should be ok, right?

I think I'm leaning towards the prefin ply, but I need to do up a cutlist and see what I'm really talking about cost-wise.

Are termites an issue in your area?  If so, go full PVC toe kicks if the cabinets are also going to be screwed to walls.

Peter
 
i was just dreaming up my future work space and thought of rolling cabinets so that you could roll virtually everything in the workspace around.

just a thought.
 
live4ever said:
Would dominos + glue suffice for melamine, or would I have to use confirmats or something?

Dominos and glue (Titebond melamine glue) will work. I would add some screws (particle board) if you use Panolam (melamine) with particle board substrate.
Some of the Panolam colors textures come in 4 different substrates: particleboard, MDF, moisture-resistant or fire-retardant panels.
Tim
 
Any Pionite dealer should be able to get it for you.

4x8x3/4 I purchase for less than pre finished ply, I get it from a large distributor, $35-$45 per sheet.

Tom
 
For the assembly glue, dominos and pocket hole screws used together work really well for basic cabinets. Alternate the Dominos and pocket hole screws along the joints. The Dominos align everything, the glue and screws hold it together , the screws also act as the clamps. The combination makes the assembly go easily and smoothly.

Seth
 
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