Please help find the missing link!! 492531

[anthonymall]

(Mods please move if in wrong forum, I couldn’t decide which one). Long story short, picked up a used centrotec installers kit about 9 months ago. Had to replace about 3-4 pieces. Thought I was good until I looked closer and there was a PZ2 in the PH2 100mm slot. No prob I thought, I see the other ones all the time. FF 9 months and I’m losing sleep and my OCD is at a new level. I have literally searched the globe, bought the wrong one numerous times, though no my fault of my own. Wrong pictures mixed with wrong part numbers visaversa. The item in question is a 100mm PH2 from 10+ years ago when they had the TiN coating completely, not just the tip of the bit. Part number is 492531, NOT 500845. If anyone has 1 or 2 to spare, I can gladly purchase or trade one of the many other centrotec 100mm driver bits I’ve acquired trying to find this one. Please Help!!! The older one on the LEFT is CORRECT, 492531, the newer version on the RIGHT, 500845, is WRONG.

My anxiety thanks you in advance.

Edit: I should note that I’m not asking anyone to go out of their way to scour the internet or start calling mom and pop shops for me, just that if someone may have an extra somewhere, it would be much appreciated.

 

[six-point socket II]

Seriously, how important is this to you?

Besides some member here stepping up & trading/selling you some, this is going to be an awful lot of ‘manual labor’. They pop up from time to time on eBay, the latest active listing for them is sold out on PH1 and PH2 but still has PH3. ( https://www.ebay.de/itm/142569490279 ) No idea if they ship internationally.

The only other option is grabbing the phone and calling stores that list/ picture the correct version and find out if they actually have new old stock or if they just never bothered to take them down/ exchange pictures and information. I guess you figured out by now that just ordering by pictures/description is most likely not going to get you the correct bit, except if it came to a jackpot style win.

You’re based in the US? Here in Germany, my course of action would be to call the smallest, most rural based tool stores selling Festool - if it was that important to me.

I will keep an eye out and grab a pack if I see one, but I really haven’t seen those old packs at any dealers I frequent in recent years. There was one in Bonn that had lots of NOS stuff, not just Festool, but it seems they have sold their inventory since and shut the doors. Haven’t looked in ages for them, and now their website, eBay store, (…) all come back empty.

I’ll wait and see if another member can help you out, I hope it works out.

Maybe a member from Australia is willing to call this place and find out if they actually have new old stock or would simply cancel/ ship the new variant. https://www.northernabrasives.com.au/festool-phillips-bit-hiq-ph-2-100-ce-2

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[anthonymall]

Seriously, how important is this to you?

Besides some member here stepping up & trading/selling you some, this is going to be an awful lot of ‘manual labor’. They pop up from time to time on eBay, the latest active listing for them is sold out on PH1 and PH2 but still has PH3. ( https://www.ebay.de/itm/142569490279 ) No idea if they ship internationally.

The only other option is grabbing the phone and calling stores that list/ picture the correct version and find out if they actually have new old stock or if they just never bothered to take them down/ exchange pictures and information. I guess you figured out by now that just ordering by pictures/description is most likely not going to get you the correct bit, except if it came to a jackpot style win.

You’re based in the US? Here in Germany, my course of action would be to call the smallest, most rural based tool stores selling Festool - if it was that important to me.

I will keep an eye out and grab a pack if I see one, but I really haven’t seen those old packs at any dealers I frequent in recent years. There was one in Bonn that had lots of NOS stuff, not just Festool, but it seems they have sold their inventory since and shut the doors. Haven’t looked in ages for them, and now their website, eBay store, (…) all come back empty.

I’ll wait and see if another member can help you out, I hope it works out.

Maybe a member from Australia is willing to call this place and find out if they actually have new old stock or would simply cancel/ ship the new variant. https://www.northernabrasives.com.au/festool-phillips-bit-hiq-ph-2-100-ce-2

Kind regards,
Oliver

Thanks for your help. I’ve reached out to northern abrasives as well as beyond tools. The owner there has tried numerous times ending up with the same dead end that I have. As far as German eBay, been there on a daily basis also. I don’t really know why PH2 has been particularly hard to source. I’m hoping for another member to have an extra that they’re willing to part with or just happens to have lying around in the bottom of their tooldbox. Fingers crossed and eyes peeled.

 

[Jim_in_PA]

I don’t really know why PH2 has been particularly hard to source.

That's likely because #2 Phillips is still used nearly ubiquitously in the US and because of their nature, they degrade from cam-out and get replaced more often. That reduces the supply of a unique product much more quickly. Now this is certainly speculation on my part, but I doubt it's too far off the mark.

I've kept away from using Phillips for a couple of decades now preferring Robertson/Square Drive and Torx when I have the choice. And even so, I've gone through Phillips drivers during the same time period simply because that's their nature.

 

[anthonymall]

Agreed. I assume that basically any Phillips you buy off of the shelf is usually a PH2. But the fact that I haven’t been able to find 1, from Australia, the US, and most of Western Europe is a bummer. I didn’t write this post until after months of spending countless hours following leads in whatever spare time I had and came up empty handed. Especially in AUS where it’s listed on the Festool site albeit with the right photo wrong part number. I had the owner of beyond tools down under check around after I told him it was the wrong part number and his rep assured him that the photo was correct, not the part number. I’m just hoping a fellow FOG’er happens to have 1 and maybe I could help them out with something that I might have or could get now that I’ve made a few festool friends in far away places.

 

[anthonymall]

That's likely because #2 Phillips is still used nearly ubiquitously in the US and because of their nature, they degrade from cam-out and get replaced more often. That reduces the supply of a unique product much more quickly. Now this is certainly speculation on my part, but I doubt it's too far off the mark.

I've kept away from using Phillips for a couple of decades now preferring Robertson/Square Drive and Torx when I have the choice. And even so, I've gone through Phillips drivers during the same time period simply because that's their nature.

I also try not to use Phillips as best as I can except for prob drywall screws for the reasons you stated above. TX mostly, even the uncommon 22 and 27 my BMWs.

 

[mcfal12]

@anthonymall I think your endeavor is great and I can relate as I have spent thousands of hours of my life finding the"last" for all kinds of products including toys for my kids, tools for myself and even tracking down the last Bosch fabric refresher (hat never released in the U.S.) and 2 Sysport 1000's from a German company was willing ship to the U.S. So I get it! How great the reward will be when you attain that final P2 bit. Just never use it. As pointed out they wear out quickly and then you'll need a second

 

[usernumber1]

these are consumable items I'm so confused. Are you not going to use the bits??

 

[Cheese]

Maybe it'd be easier if you just looked for another NOS SYS 1 CE-Sort and then sell the old one you have. I purchased this SYS CE in 2015 and yours is obviously older than this one. So you're looking for individual replacement items that are at least 11 or more years old.

 

[skinee]

hello friend greetings from the UK, I have at least one(possibly two, if I search a little) of the exact bit you want,please message me your details privately and I will be delighted to drop it in the mail for you,free of charge of course, I would think there are many of them sitting around unused here in Europe(like mine) as phillips head screws are rarely used this side of the pond with the exception of plasterboard/drywall screws,look forward to hearing from you

 

[anthonymall]

these are consumable items I'm so confused. Are you not going to use the bits??

Originally I would’ve said of course. But after seeing the trouble to find just this 1 bit, highly unlikely since I’ve bought a bunch of the newer style that are readily available.

 

[anthonymall]

Maybe it'd be easier if you just looked for another NOS SYS 1 CE-Sort and then sell the old one you have. I purchased this SYS CE in 2015 and yours is obviously older than this one. So you're looking for individual replacement items that are at least 11 or more years old.

Maybe it'd be easier if you just looked for another NOS SYS 1 CE-Sort and then sell the old one you have. I purchased this SYS CE in 2015 and yours is obviously older than this one. So you're looking for individual replacement items that are at least 11 or more years old.

@Cheese @six-point socket II I used both of the sets that you two posted in the sticky thread awhile ago to see if I could even cross reference your set #s to find the bit I’m missing to no avail. I’m not sure if mine is from the US as I bought it second hand from a guy who was just quitting all woodworking; not retiring, just quitting. But I never asked where he got it. @Cheese it doesn’t say USA on the label like yours, and is more similar to @six-point socket II set because it has the 2 trays that lift out. So who knows where it was purchased originally. It’s all metric btw, no imperial brad bits.

 

[mcfal12]

hello friend greetings from the UK, I have at least one(possibly two, if I search a little) of the exact bit you want,please message me your details privately and I will be delighted to drop it in the mail for you,free of charge of course, I would think there are many of them sitting around unused here in Europe(like mine) as phillips head screws are rarely used this side of the pond with the exception of plasterboard/drywall screws,look forward to hearing from you

That’s extremely kind and thoughtful @skinee

 

[anthonymall]

hello friend greetings from the UK, I have at least one(possibly two, if I search a little) of the exact bit you want,please message me your details privately and I will be delighted to drop it in the mail for you,free of charge of course, I would think there are many of them sitting around unused here in Europe(like mine) as phillips head screws are rarely used this side of the pond with the exception of plasterboard/drywall screws,look forward to hearing from you

@skinee Buddy I can’t wait to hear back from you!! DM sent.