Proper Use of the CT-22 (The Sequel)

nycneal

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This posting is the next step in the evolution from two earlier threads: (1) the messy discovery that I needed the plug when the hose is disconnected (I tipped the machine down), and (2) the recent RRP lead dust control rules.

Now that my consciousness has been raised about controlling lead dust, in addition to all dust, I've noticed that while the CT-22 does an excellent job of collecting dust, it sprays the stuff all over the place when I remove the hose and store it in the hose garage. I even tried straightening the hose and holding it up with the vacuum on. But there is still a pile of dust on the floor when I disconnect the hose.

This really undermines the whole control-of-dust concept.

Historically in these situations, the problem is the result of me not knowing how to use the tool properly. Can anyone point me at better instructions than the user manual? Is it possible that this isn't a user error situation?

Thanks.

Neal
 
I simply don't remove the hose from the vacuuum to store it in the hose garage.
I've always suspected that to be the purpose of the opening in the front.
Works for me.

Regards,

Job
 
nycneal said:
Historically in these situations, the problem is the result of me not knowing how to use the tool properly. Can anyone point me at better instructions than the user manual? Is it possible that this isn't a user error situation?

I have no hose garage and I always disconnect the hose for storage and transport. Unfortunately your problem also always happens to me, the hose is still full of dust. Of course this isn't user error. Before I remove the hose I let the vac run while I bang the hose around in the hope to loosen all the dust inside but it's simply not enough. 
 
Like Job, I leave the hose connected. For the times I do disconnect the hose some dust will inevitably spill out, or I should say, try to spill out. That's not a problem, just leave the running while you carefully remove the hose. The dust that would normally escape will be sucked up. If you're really concerned about dust you could also buy the blanking plug to block off the intake so nothing escapes while the hose is removed. It's $10.50 USD. Info on the blanking plug on Festool USA site.
 
Thank you all.

I got the blanking plug after I upended the vac and had to clean up a ton of blanking dust.

The steps recommended make sense with ordinary sawdust and suchlike. I've tried them all and they work to a degree.

However, in the new age of RRP, where we suit up, wrap debris, bag it, gooseneck the bag, seal it with duct tape, vacuum the outside of the debris bags, photograph them in the dumpster for documentation and verify the cleaning of the floor (including counting the swiffers used to verify the floor cleaning), leaving a trail of dust after moving the vac seems inefficient, if not the complete opposite of dust control.

Can this really be as good as it gets?

 
OK, I can relate to that. But is there something in the regulations that dictate you to detach the hose ? I think the hosegarage works perfectly well with the vac-end still attached.
I must confess I've even stored my RTS400 ( fully connected, plug-it and all ) in the hose garage with a couple of systainers on top, whenever I had to stack up for the night and I knew I would be using it again first thing the next day.
I don't see a reason not to - there's room, it's protected and all is tidy. Faster, easier, smarter - there you go.

Regards,

Job
 
nycneal said:
However, in the new age of RRP, where we suit up, wrap debris, bag it, gooseneck the bag, seal it with duct tape, vacuum the outside of the debris bags, photograph them in the dumpster for documentation and verify the cleaning of the floor (including counting the swiffers used to verify the floor cleaning), leaving a trail of dust after moving the vac seems inefficient, if not the complete opposite of dust control.

Can this really be as good as it gets?

Probably not. But then gain, the CT22 was never developed with those rather severe American rules in mind.
 
I think technically you may have to bag up your vac and keep it quarantined.

Not sure who will be doing that.
 
WarnerConstCo. said:
I think technically you may have to bag up your vac and keep it quarantined.

But if you bag up your vac, you'll then need a second vac to vac the outside of the bag that the first vac is in. Then you'll have to bag that one up too, and need a third vac....

nycneal said:
However, in the new age of RRP, where we suit up, wrap debris, bag it, gooseneck the bag, seal it with duct tape, vacuum the outside of the debris bags, photograph them in the dumpster for documentation and verify the cleaning of the floor (including counting the swiffers used to verify the floor cleaning), leaving a trail of dust after moving the vac seems inefficient, if not the complete opposite of dust control.

Seriously, I have read some of the threads on this whole RRP lark, but I didn't realise it was all quite as rediculous as it is!
 
I think it is funny how much plastic will be going in the landfill's.

I would think the epa knows a bit about plastics and landfills.
 
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