Question on dust collection for smaller tools?

[festal]

Dust collection question for router table and bandsaw.
I have 14” bandsaw that has 2 2-1/4” dust ports. Also router table has 2-1/4” dust port and second port is on triton router so it’s probably 1”
Trying to figure out what works better mini gorilla dust collector with y reducer to 2 2-1/4” hoses or festool ct-48 with the cms-ge dual hose. 
What would give me better dust collection for these 2 uses?

Thank you

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[jeffinsgf]

I have both vacuums (dust extractors) and blowers (dust collectors) in my shop. In general, I use dust collection for heavy chip producers and dust extraction for fine dust producers. The notable exception is my table saw, where I use a dust collector, even though it produces very fine particle dust.

When I am going to use my router table for an extended period of time, I put a dust collector with a 4" port on the downdraft cabinet and a dust extractor with a 50mm hose on the fence. For shorter runs, I have a manifold that connects both ports to the dust collector.

Think of a dust extractor as "high velocity, low volume"...small particles where the machine is starting them on their journey already work fairly well and the small container is not much of a limitation.

Dust collectors are "low velocity, high volume"...they're able to move larger chips and shavings (jointer and planer, for example) and their larger containers handle the chip load better.

That was a long wind-up to my pitch that the Mini-Gorilla is poorly designed. The blower is fine, the cyclone is fine, the filter is fine, but it dumps into a tiny 15 gallon container that is an absolute nightmare to empty. And, there's no option for a larger container. It fills up in about 20 minutes of running a thickness planer.

If it were never going to be used on anything except a table saw and/or band saw, it might be an acceptable option, but for a jointer, planer or router table, I would keep looking. I'd rather use an extractor and pay for the expensive bags than fight with that Mini-Gorilla to get the container on and off.

 

[festal]

Thanks Jeff.  I already have mini gorilla and have been using it (not heavily) for past 6 months.  No complaints.  It works fine and actually bin is fairly easy to empty.  Yes its small but its on casters and only 3 clips so not too bad.  Using the bags its a simple process and also because its 15 gallons, its not too heavy lol.  I actually chose it for its size.  I was looking at mini gorilla and supercell.  Supercell was out of my budget and mini gorilla I bought right before prices shot up.  I just recently got a 6" jointer with helical head so just tested it with mini gorilla but didn't use it for a production run yet.  My planer is dewalt 735 so i can bypass mini gorilla and connect it right to the bag or a garbage can and let the impaler fan do its work.  I haven't used it yet as well but have a project coming up where I would be using rough lumber.  From what I can tell direct to bag works fine with it. 

For the router I have your freehand guard that I just got and MacGyvered CMS-GE dual hose setup with few adapaters from festool to the freehand guard and triton router.  Seems to work ok.  I can use the same setup with my bandsaw for now and see how it goes.  I have a custom router insert wing on my table saw and bought an Incra Ultra fence with it, still need to figure out how to best connect it and use it. 

 

[jeffinsgf]

As long as you're not using the Mini-Gorilla with a planer, you'll probably love it. I liked it on the table saw, for sure.