Question on order to paint some rooms

[bkharman]

Hey FOGers.

I am limited on time i can dedicate to painting a room for an elderly lady in my neighborhood.  I have been helping her out lately on some projects and she asked if i would do some painting for her.  Much to my chagrin, I said i can find her a painter, but my wife had already volunteered me for it!!

I won't have any "real" time to do this right, so I am thinking I will either cut in one day and then roll the next of vice versa.  Normally i would cut in a few feet, roll to match and keep everything wet, but I dont have the hours needed to get it done that way.

So here is the loaded question?  Which way would you lay down a layer of SW light colored Cashmere without it looking all hat-bandy?

Cheers.  Bryan.

 

[jyarbrou]

I normally cut in an entire wall of Cashmere then come back and roll that wall, then move onto the next wall. I would think you would get better results doing it wall by wall across multiple days than cutting in and rolling on different days.

 

[tjbnwi]

I normally cut in an entire wall of Cashmere then come back and roll that wall, then move onto the next wall. I would think you would get better results doing it wall by wall across multiple days than cutting in and rolling on different days.

I agree with this method.

Tom

 

[bkharman]

Thanks guys. I figured it was going to be this.

Cheers. Bryan.

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[Holmz]

... Much to my chagrin, I said i can find her a painter, but my wife had already volunteered me for it!!
...

Firstly: I generally counsel people not to take my advice, be it marital or otherwise.

Secondly: How does you wife perform on the end of a paint roller?

 

[mkasdin]

Yep. Stick the wife on the cutting and have her do the room before and follow behind. Tell her the marriage is a meeting of the minds and how much fun it's going to be to paint granny's house.

I would first wipe the walls down with a no rinse substitute TSP. That will clean the walls so the paint will stick better.

That might be enough right there to call it a day if she likes the clean walls.

Use a 3/8 roller on a 6" mini frame. Purdy makes ones do it has a plastic end cap.  Roll the paint in a tray and wipe the plastic end off and cut in with that.  You'll have a small gap between the ceiling and walls but she probably won't notice.  Then come back and roll the rest out with a regular roller attached to a handle.

I would use a premium paint; I prefer Dunn Edwards primer paint- Everest or Suprema. It's basically a one coat dea on the Everest. I dilute it with 4 ozs of water it's a 0 VOC paint so it dries fast. You should feel comfortable painting if you use this product, time is not your friend.

Also for cutting in get yourself a 1 1/2" sash brush. I like Purdy Clear Cut its made for cutting. You'll find it at sherwin Williams since they own Purdy.

Don't know anything about cashmere paint? It says in the review goes on buttery smooth, rich look, washable, etc? It says it's for painters with limited experience, blah ,blah..

Sounds to me that they use floetrol or a similar glycerin product in the paint if it releases easily and gives extended wet edge.

Your last option is to tell her you only use "Farrow and Ball". Once she hears the price of the paint you might not have to paint her rooms. (Sorry bad joke)

 

[AlexThePalex]

I think it's best to paint the entire wall at once, not cut in first and do the main wall the next day.

I always use a brush to paint the corners, then roll it smooth with a small 4 inch long roller. Then paint the big surface with a 9 inch roller, and smooth the corners out once again with the small roller.

Do this for about 4 or 5 feet at the time, working from one side of the wall to the other side. Work fast so you make sure the paint is still wet when you do the next 4-5 feet section. Always work wet-in-wet, this way the vertical layers can smoothly flow into eachother without causing stripes.

Use a 4 foot extension on the 9 inch roller, this way you can paint the entire surface from top to bottom at once.

 

[tjbnwi]

Just airless spray the entire room, done in 30 minutes---you never have to worry about painting for her again.

Tom

 

[wptski]

Just airless spray the entire room, done in 30 minutes---you never have to worry about painting for her again.

Tom

Ha!  I've timed a pro house painter on YouTube at less than three minutes.

 

[RKA]

I would just stick to your usual routine.  Cut and roll as you go (mainly because I don't think you'll save much time cutting on one day and rolling on another).  When you're out of time, stop at the nearest corner and pick up from there the next available day.  I would take this as an opportunity to see how quickly you can cut (may need a better brush).  You'll start out good and as you follow the lines around the room you'll see you got much better (and faster).  Cutting usually costs me more time than rolling, but I don't have enough practice at it.  I think it should be the other way around with a bit of practice. 

 

[TheMarvelousOne]

As someone who hasn't ever been paid to paint a wall, I must ask you guys a question....

Is cutting everything in and then going back the next day to paint the rest of the wall a bad idea?  Is the finish product compromised by doing it this way?

 

[bobfog]

As someone who hasn't ever been paid to paint a wall, I must ask you guys a question....

Is cutting everything in and then going back the next day to paint the rest of the wall a bad idea?  Is the finish product compromised by doing it this way?

I think as described, doing cutting in and rolling whilst still wet is the correct way in theory. In reality whether the final outcome, a week down the line is compromised when it's all thoroughly dry and achieved full hardness depends on how large the area you cut in was and the individual paint being used and surface being painted.

I've personally always cut in the entire room first and then rolled after without worrying if the initial cutting had dried. I cut in the bare minimum with the brush and get as close to the corners and ceiling as possible with rollers and I can't see any discernible difference.

 

[RKA]

[member=19296]TheMarvelousOne[/member]
I think the difference is subtle, but I notice it.  The window pane effect is there if I cut first, let it dry, then go back later and roll it.  It looks like two layers of paint.  If I cut and roll together the paint blends together a bit better, but you can still see the textural difference between roller and brush, so it's certainly not perfect by any means, but it's a little better.  The slight increase in time spent doesn't matter to me. 

 

[jyarbrou]

As someone who hasn't ever been paid to paint a wall, I must ask you guys a question....

Is cutting everything in and then going back the next day to paint the rest of the wall a bad idea?  Is the finish product compromised by doing it this way?

By doing that you end up with flashing or telegraphing of the cut since you're rolling over a dry cut in. And the severity of that will depend on the sheen and quality of the paint. The more gloss the worse it will be. On a flat you may not notice at all

I used to cut in 3-4 ft then come back and with a roller, feather out the cut line and then roll that 3-4 feet of wall, then cut the next 3-4 feet and repeat the same method over and over again. But now I've switched to cutting the whole wall first and then rolling that wall, then move to the next wall and repeat. I can keep moving fast enough that the end result is good enough for me. I don't think I would ever cut and roll on different days, or even hours apart.

 

[tjbnwi]

Just airless spray the entire room, done in 30 minutes---you never have to worry about painting for her again.

Tom

Ha!  I've timed a pro house painter on YouTube at less than three minutes.

I included setup-pack out and ducking as the pans come flying.

Tom