yeah thanks, I see that. i'm going to go for the barrel grip because I'm always going into tight spots when I use my trion corded one now. i'm guessing the 12v would work great for just a few pieces. i carry a 28v milwaukee sawzall for cutting reclaimed lumber as well as a 28v bandsaw for steel when i'm out trying to make stuff fit in my van or trailer, but i suspect that some of the newer battery designs in the smaller sizes would be as good if not better than the old big stuff i'm lugging around now.