Raised Panel Doors

pjblues

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As I am a newer woodworker and am learning to use the Festool CMS system, I need to know what kind of router bit I should purchase for making raised panel doors? I watched the video on how to setup the support back board on the CMS fence and I think I understand the process. At least I am ready to give it a go. I just need to know what router bit to use.

Thanks so much.
 
I don't have a cms but I run my raised panel bits in my router/woodpecker table combo with great success. I learned a lot by watching vids and ended up buying Sommerfeld's raised panel bit set. He also has videos for purchase and or you can see them on Youtube. It all depends on the pattern you choose for your rails and stiles and getting the correct panel cutter to mate with those rails and stiles. Be mindful of your speed with those big bits and you'll be making doors in no time. My first doors made for my wife's embroidery machine cabinet:

 

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I will also be i interested to see the response to this thread.

I also am a newish CMS owner and would at some point like to use it to make raised panel doors.

Im pretty sure they just sell sets for this sort of thing on to cut the pannel the other to make the dado...

I could be wrong but thats what my best "raised panel door on a router table" googling got me. Gott love the internet you can learn anything you want if you are motivated to dig deep enough and waste all kinds of time staring at a screen.

What Ivanhoe said he posted as i was typing...
 
We here in NA are limited to using only the 1010 & the 1400 ( for our own safety because we here in NA are either to dumb or too clumsy to operate the 2200) in the CMS. ???
 
At JLCLive! a couple of years ago, the verticle raised panel bits came from Lee Valley Tools.  In fact, if you haven't seen those videos it might be worth it to watch.

Peter
 
I've used CMT bits for raised panel doors with great results.    It all depends on that look you're after.

Go with a raised panel set.  To make things a little easier on you, get a set that has the raised panel bit with a back cutter.  Make some test pieces and a couple test doors.  Keep some test pieces for set up gauges incase you need to make more pieces or for any mistakes you may make.   

http://www.tool-home.com/products/catalog/index.php?manufacturers_id=131&sort=3d&filter_id=1649

Eric
 
Make sure you read the CMS Supplemental Manual because it discusses the various methods for doing frame and panel door construction. You can also see some of the router bits I use for making doors. (I actually use shaper cutters more often, but I do have a couple of router bit sets too.)

Generally speaking, there are two types of cope and stick (stile and rail) router bits. You can use a single, reversible bit, or a twin bit set. The twin bit set uses a dedicated bit for the cope cut and a dedicated bit for the stick cut. The reversible bit has to be disassembled and the cutters reconfigured for the two mating cuts. The reversible bit is less expensive, but it requires more setup to reverse the cutters. I prefer the twin bit sets myself.

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The router bits come with different profiles, and I try to match the shape of the stile/rail profile to the shape of the panel raiser I happen to be using. I have several different ogee panel raisers and at least one cove raiser. So I also have a couple of different ogee and cove cope and stick cutters to match. A chamfer profile would be another common shape, but I don't have any of them.

My manual goes through the pros and cons of doing the cope cut first or doing the cope cut last. I prefer to do cope cut last, but it does require more setup and is not as common with hobbyist woodworkers. I started doing it years ago because it lets me use the power feeder on my shaper to climb-cut the long rail stock. To accomplish this without tearout, I make a coping sled so that I route both pieces at the same time, and it has a shaped (cope cut) backer that mates with the stick cut already on the rails.

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Panel raisers can be vertical or horizontal. A vertical panel raiser requires that you stand your door panel vertically on its edge to route the profile. It is best used when you have a smaller or underpowered router, because it has a smaller effective diameter. I generally use horizontal panel raisers so the panel lays flat on the table while routing.

Some router bits come with a back cutter. This allows the panel to be centered in the grove of the door frame. Instead of using a back cutter, I simply lower the panel raiser and use it to make a back cut. The picture below shows the largest panel raiser you can install in the CMS OF1400.

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These are absolutely great responses and suggestions! Thanks everyone so much, I very much appreciate the advice and suggestions. I remember a sales person telling me doing raised panels on a CMS was different than doing them on a standard router table.

Thanks again.
 
I have the CMS and I dont use the OF2200 in it. Its one powerful router that never bogs down no matter how large a bit Im using whether im hogging out wood making full passes using the largest raised panel bit with back cutter i could find, so large it almost touches the green centering ring..

that is allegedly cuz I dont use a OF2200 in a CMS
 
erock said:
I've used CMT bits for raised panel doors with great results.    It all depends on that look you're after.

Go with a raised panel set.  To make things a little easier on you, get a set that has the raised panel bit with a back cutter.  Make some test pieces and a couple test doors.  Keep some test pieces for set up gauges incase you need to make more pieces or for any mistakes you may make.   

http://www.tool-home.com/products/catalog/index.php?manufacturers_id=131&sort=3d&filter_id=1649

Eric

Can the OF1400 run these bits?  Does she HAVE THE POWER!!!!?
 
Sure an OF 1400 has the power. Heck I have run drawers and doors(stick, cope and panel raising) with a little DeWalt 621. It all depends on the depth per pass, that's it. Just about any router can be used for panel raising(stick and cope are a breeze).  Material just can't be hogged out to the same extent with the smaller routers.

I loved the OF1400 and regretted selling it, until I plugged in my new OF2200.  :)

 
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