Recent Project, Four Stairs One House!

Rob-GB

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I was recently plunged into this project and it has been a tricky one, in part, due to the property being circa 1690 with an addition in 1780 and having, I believe, been two separate houses at an earlier time. Combine this with being a listed building in a conservation area and the usual confusion this can incur,
the current building regulations for the UK are non-applicable and some of the final result is less than we would normally hope to achieve. [eek]

The whole job has been made easier by the use of a few of the Festools I own. They are the TS55 and two FS1400 and one FS800 these were used in partnership with the FS-KS angle unit and my newly aquired Parallel Guides. Some of the angled cuts started with the TS55 were completed with the PSB300 jigsaw which also stood in for tasks I usually use a handsaw for. ( I was feeling lazy one day [wink])
The T15 with it's angled chuck and quick change capabilities was a huge help in some tight corners, while it's power made short work of fixing into aged oak.
The EHL65 also got a look in and the CT Mini got some additional abuse as a wheel set for my systainers along a typically bad Kentish path ::). Parking near the jobsite was pants.

But enough of that you want pictures.....don't you?

Existing 2nd floor stair.

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2nd floor side stair, what was left of it!

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1st floor stair.

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1st floor side stair. (with temporary fix)

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So this was my start point.

Plywood framing for 1st floor stair.

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We're taking steps!

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2nd floor stair underway, had to install a new newel when the existing one came off in the clients hand as I was telling him it was not fit for purpose! ;D

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Better than Celcon blocks.

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New nosings installed.

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The 2nd floor side stair.

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Where the top two meet.

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I will try to answer any questions if you have them.
I have a few other pictures so they might pop up later, thanks for looking . [big grin]

Regards Rob.

 
Nice looking work Rob. But those are head bangers waiting to happen. I can't image getting up and down those things sober, much less after a few barley pops.
 
They are indeed! The problem is that the house was built when the average height of a man was 5 foot and a bit if you were 6ft or over you were Goliath re-incarnate ;D Due to restrictions placed on conservation properties here there are some things that can not be done as one would like. I did however manage to redesign them slightly to give them a touch more headroom and more of an equal rise and going. The old ones varied in rise from one side of the step to the other! It was enough to make one seasick ;D ;D.
Rob.
 
But dont you just hate the plasters for making such a mess  of your good work messy bleaders [big grin]
 
Nice job. Bet it was a pain in the bum working it out.  I always slip of them stairs I run up them to fast and my toes slip off and down I go trying to grab what I can to stop myself.
 
Festoolfootstool said:
But dont you just hate the plasters for making such a mess  of your good work messy bleaders [big grin]

Doesn't matter, they are to be carpeted [big grin] The carpet fitter came to measure up yesterday and was cussing the number of winders involved,  :o I said just think about the poor beggar that had to make and fit them!  ;D You have gotta laugh.
 
jmbfestool said:
Nice job. Bet it was a pain in the bum working it out.   I always slip of them stairs I run up them to fast and my toes slip off and down I go trying to grab what I can to stop myself.

Slipping is the least of it, they actually are quite easy to walk up......just have to watch your head on the door frame heads [eek]
Each flight has a door at the bottom.
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Bottom of 1st floor stair.
Just that they were originally designed with poor old Quasimodo in the brief. [wink]
 
Nice work Rob, how long did it take you ?  Did you price the job or were you on the hour ?

JMB, i have a nice image now of you thumping down those stairs  [big grin]

Woodguy
 
Nice work and sure challenging to complete. Even in this bad economy I would have turned this one down. Did you use plywood for the stringers (US term for the members that hold up the treads and risers) and MDF for the treads?
 
beautiful job rob.

i would have done this job on hourly rate.

i dont think i could worked out an honest quote for it.

justin
 
Thanks for the replies.
Justin & Woodguy- The work was done on a day rate, as it was through a builder I do some joinery for, who knows I won't messs him about.

Brice- 3/4" ply for some stringers and stud work for the areas where I could install it. 1/2" ply risers and 1" mdf for treads. Got the idea from "Carpentry" by Gaspar Lewis which I found while in Forida 14 yrs ago.

I tend to prefer the more challenging projects, I get a lot of enjoyment from it. If it's fun it's not work!  [big grin]

Rob.
 
      Nice work Rob.I recently finished a winding stair but there were only 6 winders.Still,took me ages [eek].Did you draw a plan for it?
 
Nigel said:
       Nice work Rob.I recently finished a winding stair but there were only 6 winders.Still,took me ages [eek].Did you draw a plan for it?

I did some cad sketches just to work out improvements on the rise and going, nothing fancy as they were just for my use.

Rob.

 
Cool job Rob and nicely executed. 8)
I love these historical type jobs, though i don't love the an*l retentive conservation orficers.  [tongue]
Safety and comfort is always a compromise for preserving quirky heritage.
 
AlexR said:
Cool job Rob and nicely executed. 8)
I love these historical type jobs, though i don't love the an*l retentive conservation orficers.  [tongue]
Safety and comfort is always a compromise for preserving quirky heritage.

Fortunately, round here the head of conservation is a former chippie, he is strict but fair, & has some great solutions. I did have a run in with a female C.O. (different area) who had an obvious lack of knowledge, both in the history of box sash windows and how they are made. [eek]

And yes these jobs are very interesting and a joy to do, in part because your grey matter has to work a bit harder and the job satisfaction is enhanced.

Rob.
 
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