Replaceable Cutter Spiral Router Bit

[luvmytoolz]

Got one of these spiral router bits off a mate who had got them from overseas. Fantastic quality, beautifully balanced, cuts like dream with no effort at all with the 10 x 4 sided carbide cutters!

I have a very long, large 90 degree jig I made years ago for machining high profile skirtings and archs, and using the jig to square up the edge of long stock is a breeze now with this cutter, wish I had got one years ago.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

[member=75933]luvmytoolz[/member] that thing looks fantastic. Where did you get it? Brand? source? I have the 50mm cut-length Amana insert bit, but those are straight cutter type. The only compression flush trimmer I have is one of the solid carbide style and not that long. They are quite expensive for something that can/will wear out. They can be sharpened, of course, but that destroys the flushness.

 

[luvmytoolz]

He ordered it direct from a dealer in China that makes router bits and spiral cutter heads to spec. It's absolutely superb quality, and was only $225 AUD landed which I thought was a bargain. Aliexpress does have similar cheaper ones but they aren't quite as good quality I think:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002122884352.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.1bf838daBqWvvM&mp=1

The flutes are noticeably different, but I don't see why they wouldn't be very good despite being cheaper, I'll be buying a few from Ali to try out. The fact you can use all 4 edges of the inserts is just great, in comparison my thicknesser only has 2 usable edges.

I did initially really worry about the sheer mass and size of it with the router, but needn't have worried. I trimmed roughly 5-8mm off a bunch of 30mm thick hard maple architrave edges in one pass, and it was whisper quiet in use, no kickback or vibration of any kind, just super smooth! Had the speed set to 3-4 on the OF2200.

I'll try and find out the details of the guy he went through.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

That would be great, thank you.
I don't use the one I have as much as I would like, "saving it" for hardwood only. I would use a replaceable insert unit a lot more.

 

[festal]

[member=75933]luvmytoolz[/member] i started seeing youtubers use these, seems like there is a marketing blitz.  was wondering about these as well

 

[Cheese]

Got one of these spiral router bits off a mate who had got them from overseas. Fantastic quality, beautifully balanced, cuts like dream with no effort at all with the 10 x 4 sided carbide cutters!

Interesting that the bit is 1/2" shank rather than 12 mm.

Is that an actual compression (up-down) bit?

 

[squall_line]

I swear this was posted on the FOG earlier, but I can't find it any more.  Maybe I only saw it on Facebook.  A friend of mine recently showed me this same item and he has one either on order or already in hand, I can't remember.

In any case, it's from CSP Tooling.  They're definitely getting their name out there on social media.
https://www.csptooling.com/collecti...al-router-bits-with-replaceable-insert-knives
https://www.instagram.com/csptooling/?hl=en

They have a bunch of helical-style bits and whatnot.

I have no affiliation and am not associated or sponsored by them, I just saw stuff from them a while ago and knew how to find it again (but apparently not on here).

 

[afish]

Got one of these spiral router bits off a mate who had got them from overseas. Fantastic quality, beautifully balanced, cuts like dream with no effort at all with the 10 x 4 sided carbide cutters!

Interesting that the bit is 1/2" shank rather than 12 mm.

Is that an actual compression (up-down) bit?

Spiral=yes, compression=no

 

[Cheese]

Is that an actual compression (up-down) bit?

Spiral=yes, compression=no
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Thanks for that...that makes sense. Coming from a metal working background I just have a thing for insert tooling.  [big grin]

 

[luvmytoolz]

Interesting that the bit is 1/2" shank rather than 12 mm.

Is that an actual compression (up-down) bit?

Standard router bit sizes in OZ are 1/4" and 1/2", only times we see 10 or 12mm shanks is when we get a European product.

Not a compression as others have noted, but it cuts so well it handles varied grains beautifully, no tear out at all.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Seems like segmented nature would make them act more like a spiral cutter, even if the inserts themselves are not canted? Instead of the flat slapping of the typical straight cutter. You would also get smaller chips, same as with an insert head planer.

 

[Svar]

This is segmented, not spiral. Spiral inserts have some radius to the sides (~150 mm) and are slanted. However, replaceable inserts have sharper angle of attack than standard bits, hence cleaner cut.

 

[afish]

This is segmented, not spiral. Spiral inserts have some radius to the sides (~150 mm) and are slanted. However, replaceable inserts have sharper angle of attack than standard bits, hence cleaner cut.

agreed, technically the cutters would need to be scewed or turned slightly to be a spiral and do have a slight radius to the flat sides of the ones I have seen. I misspoke earlier and was more focused on clarifying that it was not a compression bit. sorry for confusion

 

[luvmytoolz]

I figured this is more appropriate to add this here instead of the "what Non-Festool tool have you bought".

The carbide blade on my ancient HL850E planer is woefully worn and damaged, so a couple weeks ago I ordered a spiral cutterhead from CSP Tools, the same crowd I got the fantastic router cutter in the earlier posts above from.

This thing is sensational. 21 x 4 sided cutters, so I'll never need to buy new ones. And the fit was absolutely perfect. Exactly the same as the original Festool one it's replaced. I haven't tried it yet and plan to tonight, but given how mind blowing the spiral router cutter is I don't expect this to be any less awesome!

 

[TinyShop]

[member=75933]luvmytoolz[/member] - brilliant!

 

[luvmytoolz]

I tried it last night on some Black Butt, a particularly hard Aussie timber that's renowned for being difficult to work and blunt tools.

Quite aggressive cuts, handled like a dream, and less noise than the original cutting head!

Link to a video of it:https://www.instagram.com/p/Cyh_eBvL_T9/?img_index=1

Couldn't recommend this highly enough, super smooth, not the least hint of vibration, amazingly powerful cutting!

They also sell spiral heads for other portable planers I believe.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

[member=75933]luvmytoolz[/member]  Did you notice that the spiral is going in the opposite direction? Does it affect the dust collection?

 

[Svar]

The carbide blade on my ancient HL850E planer is woefully worn and damaged, so a couple weeks ago I ordered a spiral cutterhead from CSP Tools, the same crowd I got the fantastic router cutter in the earlier posts above from.

[member=75933]luvmytoolz[/member] I looked at CSP Tools site (https://www.csptooling.com/) and did not see any planer cutter heads except for Makita 2012NB. Was this a custom order?

 

[luvmytoolz]

The carbide blade on my ancient HL850E planer is woefully worn and damaged, so a couple weeks ago I ordered a spiral cutterhead from CSP Tools, the same crowd I got the fantastic router cutter in the earlier posts above from.

[member=75933]luvmytoolz[/member] I looked at CSP Tools site (https://www.csptooling.com/) and did not see any planer cutter heads except for Makita 2012NB. Was this a custom order?

This is the post I spotted it in:https://www.instagram.com/p/CsjfFK6p3Mq/

The entire head with 21 inserts was $136 USD inc shipping to OZ which is just dirt cheap for such a well made product! Shipping also was just a couple weeks.

 

[luvmytoolz]

[member=75933]luvmytoolz[/member]  Did you notice that the spiral is going in the opposite direction? Does it affect the dust collection?

I did notice that and wondered myself, but it seems to make no difference whatsoever, I think given you can direct the chip ejection on the HL850 left or right it doesn't really matter. For the first try in the video I went for broke and took really aggressive cuts without extraction which ejected fine. Couldn't believe how smooth it was given the load in a super hard timber.