Rolling Kapex stand

[Warrior]

I have an idea. It might be good, might not. That is the nature of ideas though.

CT22 as the base of a rolling kapex work stand.

Sys-5 latches onto the CT or 2 Sys-3 drawer thingies. I like the Sys 5 cause you can just throw in the hose and extension cord when its time to wrap up.

Kapex latches on top of the Sys via a shop made base. Extension wings can clamp into the v grooves on the kapex. I dont have a Kapex yet but will work on supports that can utilize the v-groove or can attach to the kapex extensions.

Maybe the boom arm outriggers can add stability.

Eiji

 

[woodshopdemos]

Eiji,
  I like your thinking. My first reaction is that the CT22 may not have sufficient strength in the carriage to allow the Kapex to use it as a base. The Kapex is relatively lightweight but the tasks of using it are not minor ones. It is food for thought, though. Thanks for the thought. Maybe others will have more imaginative views.
 

 

[Warrior]

My first reaction is that the CT22 may not have sufficient strength in the carriage to allow the Kapex to use it as a base. The Kapex is relatively lightweight but the tasks of using it are not minor ones.   

John,

Exactly my first thoughts after the initial idea came to me. But my CT handles alot more weight than a kapex when I have to roll a few tools to the job.

I also have limited space in the truck to transport needed tools. I have to add another CT to use with the Kapex so I might as well make the most of it.
Eiji

 

[Warrior]

Having my new Kapex topple over would just kill me though.

 

[jonny round boy]

I have an idea. It might be good, might not. That is the nature of ideas though.

CT22 as the base of a rolling kapex work stand.

Sys-5 latches onto the CT or 2 Sys-3 drawer thingies. I like the Sys 5 cause you can just throw in the hose and extension cord when its time to wrap up.

Kapex latches on top of the Sys via a shop made base. Extension wings can clamp into the v grooves on the kapex. I dont have a Kapex yet but will work on supports that can utilize the v-groove or can attach to the kapex extensions.

Maybe the boom arm outriggers can add stability.

Eiji

Eiji,

It's a good idea, but in reality it would be far too top-heavy.

My dealer has a sys1 with a small section of MFT top bonded to it, specifically to hold the Kapex on the CT22. It's fine for moving it short distances across his completely flat demo area, but I wouldn't want to have to take it much further. It's far too unstable.

 

[Warrior]

The fact that it is able to roll does not mean I would be attaching the kapex and then rolling it up to the site.  I guess I shouldnt have said rolling work stand. I just wanted to be able to encorporate the CT into a stand since I will be dedicating one for the Kapex anyway. i will definately be carrying the kapex by itself and then placing it onto its stand. I would love to have less things to set up before getting on to work. And less things to carry around in the truck.

I am thinking that once set up the side extensions would lend stability from side to side and maybe if the Kapex could mount perpendicular to the length of the CT that would be enough front to back stability.

The saw helper stand is very stable but heavy steel square tube. The extension wings are sweet but the legs are once again very heavy. I will be replacing the legs on my sets with hinged adjustable ply legs (Gary Katz' design). I dont do any framing so i dont need that kind of strenth in the legs. I have in saw helper stands the U55, U108 and just sold a U88. I swear the stupid leg is nearly half of the weight in the 10' long extension.

I also see a problem with the Kapex couplers from sawhelper. They attach to the v-groove on the Kapex which disables the use of the Kapex extensions with the built in crown supports. I know that sawhelper has their own crown supports but I can attest to their lameness. I am hoping to make a continuous crown support that mounts in the built in Kapex slots. I may not get to that since I am rarely doing standard trim installs these days. I think that any extension wings should be able to quick connect directly to the v-groove itself or be attached to the Kapex extensions.

We will see soon enough.

Eiji

 

[mhch]

What about building a dedicated simple cabinet on casters
in which the CT is installed
on top of which the Kapex is installed

stability can be insured by mounting the casters on long 2 x 4 running across/under the cabinet.

 

[Warrior]

In a shop that would work great. I am looking for something to transport to the jobsite.

 

[ccmviking]

Eiji,

      All the rolling stands that I've seen are just contraptions that are more work than they eliminate.  The mainstream ones that I know of are the Bosch, Craftman, and Ridgid.  TahoeTwoBears has the Bosch and I think he's pretty unhappy with it.  A good friend of mine has the Ridgid, and it'a a bulky piece too.  The sawhelper setup is a little work to find a way to transport but it's actually pretty quick to setup once at the job site.  Having something easy and integrated would sure be nice I just can't think of how to work it out.  Using the Kapex is not easy.  36mm Hose, DC, Support Stand, Material Supports, etc.  It's actually quite a bit of work to get your Miter Station setup at a job site, isn't it?  I see it as one of those necessary evils.  But I'll also always see if I can get by without it before pulling it out.  My CMS is on my trailer counter top where it's usable to cut 8' material without the need to move it.  Good Luck

 
Chris...

 

[Warrior]

Chris,

I have the saw helper stands and do like them. and as they claim it is possible to set them up in 60 seconds if you're on speed. ;D That doesnt figure in the time from truck to work area. Also it will take 4 trips from the truck to the set up area to just to bring what I need for a miter station.

1. Stand and some cords and pnuematic hose
2. Extension wings
3. Kapex
4. CT and hose

If I can eliminate or rather combine steps 1 and 4 that would free up a little time and valuable energy every day. This would deffinately lower my carbon foot print.

 

[jonny round boy]

Eiji,

How about building a variation of my Kapex Work Stand?

I set the back in to create storage for clamps, but if you didn't, you could store the Kapex inside for transport. Then, once out on site, place the Kapex on top & fit the CT22 inside, out of the way.

You could also increase the height to suit your prefered working position.

 

[Warrior]

Johnny,

That is a nice stand but I think it would take up too much space in the back of my truck. I dont like to put anything in tha back that is higher than the drawer box. See here.
Since I will be adding a second CT for the Kapex I would not have the space to carry it. This is my main motivation - less to set up and less to carry. I have to give it a go or just stick with the sawhelper stand.

Eiji

 

[TahoeTwoBears]

Hi folks,

I've got this Bosch stand which is not that portable:
http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-TracRac...d_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1213725686&sr=8-3

The stand I've been waiting to see in person is very similar (at least in the pictures) to my table saw stand, which I dearly love. Chris Mercado has one as well and I'm assuming likes it since he's still using it. It might be worth checking out:
http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-T4B-Gra...d_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1213725686&sr=8-2

Happy hunting. Please post what you come up with. We're all looking for the ideal..............

Mike
Currently in Oceanside

 

[JJ Wavra]

Just a thought what if you made the ct support just one side of a work table for the kapex and had a set of adjustable legs that fold down towards the top when not in use. You could even put some wheels on the opposite side of the top and wheel the kapex around.

JJ

 

[Warrior]

Nice JJ

I'll work that into a design. where do I go to get a CT22 model for sketch up? I dont actually need it to roll around. but with this design you could grab the edge of the top and move it around like a wheel barrow.

Eiji

 

[Michael Kellough]

Nice JJ

I'll work that into a design. where do I go to get a CT22 model for sketch up? I dont actually need it to roll around. but with this design you could grab the edge of the top and move it around like a wheel barrow.

Eiji

Eiji, Since the vac will be dedicated to the Kapex you won't need variable speed so maybe something else like a Fein vac would be suitable.

 

[Warrior]

Michael,
you are correct but it still doesnt address the problem i am trying to solve.

Eiji