Rowley and Hermance tenoner

[WarnerConstCo.]

Late 1870s Rowley and Hermance #3 4 head tenoner.  Very original and very complete.  Has one repair I need to repair again.
Almost able to make all parts for the old buildings I work on with equipment that could have made it to begin with.  Should be under power this weekend.

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[rst]

Hermance’ is still in business in Williamsport, PA about an hour from me. They also have a Rockler in stock their building.  I bought my first Festool rails from them, As well as other Festools.

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Hermance’ is still in business in Williamsport, PA about an hour from me. They also have a Rockler in stock their building.  I bought my first Festool rails from them, As well as other Festools.

Correct, Hermance.  Rowley and hermance were part of 11 companies that became American Woodworking Machinery in 1897. 

A.D. Hermance sold his stake in AWWM in 1902 and started Hermance. 

Unfortunately Hermance is now owned bay Wurth Baer and is far from the company they use to be. 

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[luvmytoolz]

I love old machines, but especially I love the legs on them!

Imagine the spectacular industrial look table you could make with legs like that!

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

I love old machines, but especially I love the legs on them!

Imagine the spectacular industrial look table you could make with legs like that!

Uh, no. I won't imagine that. That's a thing of nitemares

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[Crazyraceguy]

[member=3891]WarnerConstCo.[/member] what are you going to use for powering that beast? I see the multi-V pulley at the bottom, as an adaptor of-sorts. How much power is required there? 10HP? more?
I would imagine that it really throws some chips.

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

[member=3891]WarnerConstCo.[/member] what are you going to use for powering that beast? I see the multi-V pulley at the bottom, as an adaptor of-sorts. How much power is required there? 10HP? more?
I would imagine that it really throws some chips.

Just an electric motor for now, v belt.  Finding tight/loose pulleys is getting difficult now. 
5hp may be enough to run tenons and bottom cope, but all 4 probably requires a 7 1/2.  I probably have 30 spare electric motors. 

To ease starting load, one can lift weight that applies tension to tenon heads while starting then ease it down. It's actually on a ratcheting pawl set up. 

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[BarneyD]

I also noted that multi-V pulley but figured it was probably a modification. I'd guess that beast was originally powered via a line shaft with a flat belt.
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Cheers,

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Side quest almost completed. 

Running fairly well. 


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[Econoline]

Wow, impressive! Machines like that are the reason that a guy tucks his shirt tails in, and runnin one is not for the faint of heart.

E.

 

[smorgasbord]

OSHA would hate that thing today.
But, so much fun.

 

[Packard]

You mentioned it needs a repair, but you don’t mention the nature of that repair.

If on the odd chance that there is a cracked casting, the common method from my experience (circa 1975) was deep brazing. That method rarely was permanent. 

There was a company in Long Island City or perhaps the Bronx, called Metalock Stitch Company.  They had a patented method that literally sewed the crack using malleable steel rods.

That patent apparently has expired and Metalock seems to have disappeared.  There are several others doing similar repairs now.

I know that one of our customers had a cracked ram on one of his punch presses (probably about a 60 ton press).  It was repaired using the stitching method and held up fine for the 4 years I was still in contact with that company.  For all that I know, the repair could still be good.

In case the repair needs a cracked casting fixed, here is the search. (And it appears that some improvements have been made in the process.)

Addendum:  There appears to still be a Metalock company, but now located in the UK, but indicates that they make repairs in the USA, so maybe the license the technique.
https://www.metalockengineering.com/en/metalock-engineering-usa
https://www.google.com/search?q=lock+stitch+cast+iron+repair+metalock+stitch&client=firefox-b-1-m&sca_esv=8e90aa19ff011ac7&sxsrf=AHTn8zpy9_FXyFa-GAqzEL9mVN5wdvDAwg%3A1743947434871&ei=qobyZ6jxNP-uptQPtrvh-Qo&oq=lock+stitch+cast+iron+repair+metalock&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiJWxvY2sgc3RpdGNoIGNhc3QgaXJvbiByZXBhaXIgbWV0YWxvY2sqAggBMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgUQIRifBUjHXVCBC1jDJHABeAGQAQCYAWagAZIGqgEDOC4xuAEByAEA-AEBmAIKoALTB8ICChAAGLADGNYEGEfCAgYQABgWGB7CAgUQABjvBcICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIFECEYoAHCAgUQIRirApgDAIgGAZAGCJIHAzQuNqAH7TiyBwMzLja4B7UH&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

You mentioned it needs a repair, but you don’t mention the nature of that repair.

If on the odd chance that there is a cracked casting, the common method from my experience (circa 1975) was deep brazing. That method rarely was permanent. 

There was a company in Long Island City or perhaps the Bronx, called Metalock Stitch Company.  They had a patented method that literally sewed the crack using malleable steel rods.

That patent apparently has expired and Metalock seems to have disappeared.  There are several others doing similar repairs now.

I know that one of our customers had a cracked ram on one of his punch presses (probably about a 60 ton press).  It was repaired using the stitching method and held up fine for the 4 years I was still in contact with that company.  For all that I know, the repair could still be good.

In case the repair needs a cracked casting fixed, here is the search. (And it appears that some improvements have been made in the process.)
https://www.google.com/search?q=lock+stitch+cast+iron+repair+metalock+stitch&client=firefox-b-1-m&sca_esv=8e90aa19ff011ac7&sxsrf=AHTn8zpy9_FXyFa-GAqzEL9mVN5wdvDAwg%3A1743947434871&ei=qobyZ6jxNP-uptQPtrvh-Qo&oq=lock+stitch+cast+iron+repair+metalock&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiJWxvY2sgc3RpdGNoIGNhc3QgaXJvbiByZXBhaXIgbWV0YWxvY2sqAggBMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgUQIRifBUjHXVCBC1jDJHABeAGQAQCYAWagAZIGqgEDOC4xuAEByAEA-AEBmAIKoALTB8ICChAAGLADGNYEGEfCAgYQABgWGB7CAgUQABjvBcICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIFECEYoAHCAgUQIRirApgDAIgGAZAGCJIHAzQuNqAH7TiyBwMzLja4B7UH&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Already brazed it and made it look like it never happened. 

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[Packard]

OSHA would hate that thing today.
But, so much fun.

OSHA would issue a fine if they found it running.  It would appear to be difficult to make it OSHA compliant.

 

[Packard]

You mentioned it needs a repair, but you don’t mention the nature of that repair.

If on the odd chance that there is a cracked casting, the common method from my experience (circa 1975) was deep brazing. That method rarely was permanent. 

There was a company in Long Island City or perhaps the Bronx, called Metalock Stitch Company.  They had a patented method that literally sewed the crack using malleable steel rods.

That patent apparently has expired and Metalock seems to have disappeared.  There are several others doing similar repairs now.

I know that one of our customers had a cracked ram on one of his punch presses (probably about a 60 ton press).  It was repaired using the stitching method and held up fine for the 4 years I was still in contact with that company.  For all that I know, the repair could still be good.

In case the repair needs a cracked casting fixed, here is the search. (And it appears that some improvements have been made in the process.)
https://www.google.com/search?q=lock+stitch+cast+iron+repair+metalock+stitch&client=firefox-b-1-m&sca_esv=8e90aa19ff011ac7&sxsrf=AHTn8zpy9_FXyFa-GAqzEL9mVN5wdvDAwg%3A1743947434871&ei=qobyZ6jxNP-uptQPtrvh-Qo&oq=lock+stitch+cast+iron+repair+metalock&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiJWxvY2sgc3RpdGNoIGNhc3QgaXJvbiByZXBhaXIgbWV0YWxvY2sqAggBMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgUQIRifBUjHXVCBC1jDJHABeAGQAQCYAWagAZIGqgEDOC4xuAEByAEA-AEBmAIKoALTB8ICChAAGLADGNYEGEfCAgYQABgWGB7CAgUQABjvBcICCBAAGKIEGIkFwgIFECEYoAHCAgUQIRirApgDAIgGAZAGCJIHAzQuNqAH7TiyBwMzLja4B7UH&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Already brazed it and made it look like it never happened. 

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Metalock stitch also brazed after stitching.  The brazing was done for cosmetic reasons.  In any event, if the brazed repair fails, one of those stitching services can do wonders on cracked castings.

Addendum:  This is not the same as what they used in the 1970s, but looks simpler to do and probably more secure.

As I recall, they would drill a hole on either side of the crack at a skewed angle that had the two holes intersect.  Then they would take a piece of steel rod and drive it in one end and out the other. Effectively a “stitch”.  They did this all along the crack, then ground it flush and braze and paint.  This new method looks easier to do and probably allows them to train companies around the world to do the work fo them.