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These same regulations apply to landlords and property managers as well.  I own one little rental house and will have to get certified if I want to work on my own property.  Rent is considered "compensation" for purposes of determining contractor status.
 
What is really horrible is that they took out the "opt out" provision for homeowners who do not have children.  5-10% may be accurate for a large projects, but small projects and painting will be closer to 25%
 
jhark123 said:
What is really horrible is that they took out the "opt out" provision for homeowners who do not have children.  5-10% may be accurate for a large projects, but small projects and painting will be closer to 25%

I don't think the opt out option has been removed, yet. I was thinking the same thing about the 5-10%. I'm guessing it will add 20-30% on about half of my jobs. The other half might be 10-15%.
 
Chris Rosenberger said:
It may be time to find another line of work.
This is crazy.

The big issue is testing for lead.
The only approved test kit is back ordered.

It won't work on plaster or drywall.
Once you test and it is positive for lead, that stays with the house.
If you just assume there is lead there, you still go through all the effort.
 
What is  funny is that the CT vac in the news program doesn't have a "compliant" (documented) HEPA filter. 
 
Charimon said:
What is  funny is that the CT vac in the news program doesn't have a "compliant" (documented) HEPA filter. 

Chris knew that but, he wanted one anyways.

I guess the announcement we were supposed to hear this week didn't happen.
 
In internet land the week isn't over.  Maybe all the test results and other stuff has been received, reviewed, etc.
 
Wonderwino said:
These same regulations apply to landlords and property managers as well.  I own one little rental house and will have to get certified if I want to work on my own property.  Rent is considered "compensation" for purposes of determining contractor status.

If you own the place, and preform the work while unoccupied, does that not qualify as a DIY and thus exempt?
 
harry_ said:
Wonderwino said:
These same regulations apply to landlords and property managers as well.  I own one little rental house and will have to get certified if I want to work on my own property.  Rent is considered "compensation" for purposes of determining contractor status.

If you own the place, and preform the work while unoccupied, does that not qualify as a DIY and thus exempt?

It is my understanding that the home must be your primary residence, and you don't rent it out.
 
I feel that this type of legislation is a double edged sword. The home owner has to pay more, the contractor has to invest more and those sham companies who pay less taxes, price lower, are un-informed/un-trained get more work. The consumer gets a rubbish job of no worth under false belief's.
We have this problem in the UK since the government decided to make it mandatory for people removing rubbish from site had to be licensed and most waste depot's have banned vans and trucks from using their facilities or charge silly fees to do so. The cost of legitimate waste skips has increased too as a direct result.
The problems of 'fly tipping' a practice whereby waste is indiscrimanently deposited in parking layby's, fields and other such places then left to local councils to clean up at a cost to every housholder in that area has increased dramatically.
Legislation enforced at such high levels of fines only hurts the honest workers and home owners, the dishonest ones don't give a flying monkey for the consequences whom-ever they hurt.

Surely the better way is to educate people as to the concerns so they can be better informed and the contractors have the opportunity to provide a safe level of service that meets the need of the customer, the company and that of the workforce they employ! Thus drive out of business the charletons and leave the work for the more honest and morally adjusted people.( while keeping costs reasonable for the contractor and client alike)

Just my tuppence worth from a misguided blighty  [scared]

 
The US was like the last country to ban the use of lead.

Most European country's started banning lead in paint around the early 1920's.

After we said no more lead in paint, guess what they started to use?  Mercury, and now titanium.

I have heard rumor that the next material on the copping block for certified removal is going to be fiberglass.

I love working on old houses but, this mess just makes it discouraging, especially since 75% of the houses in my area are pre-'78, heck more like pre-'38.
 
WarnerConstCo. said:
....I love working on old houses but, this mess just makes it discouraging, especially since 75% of the houses in my area are pre-'78, heck more like pre-'38.

95% of my work is on pre-1978 homes. [sad]
 
Brice and Warner, I feel for you guys. You are obviously looking out for the health of yourselves, staff and clients alike: while being forced to implement over the top methods indiscriminantly. [sad]
Just recently I was asked to do some work at a facility that sterilises equipment for hospitals, I turned up with my tools and CTL Mini in tow. Where-ever possible the vac was connected up to the tool being used and the area was kept as dust free as practically possible. The outcome of this was we picked up further work, several weeks worth. A direct result of using the tools to their best advantage and being seen to do so (not hard to miss when most of the kit is wheeled in on top of the vac in neat systainers, I reckon the Mini has paid for itself this month alone.) [big grin]
Rob.
 
Brice Burrell said:
WarnerConstCo. said:
....I love working on old houses but, this mess just makes it discouraging, especially since 75% of the houses in my area are pre-'78, heck more like pre-'38.

95% of my work is on pre-1978 homes. [sad]

About the same here.
I believe this is another giveaway to the trial lawyers.
 
Rob-That is how I set myself apart from everyone else in my area, it is not much more work to comply, I just don't think it is real fair
to do all that containment when no children live in the house.  It's geared for children under 6 safety,  which is a good thing.
It is hard enough to get people to come off money right now to do any projects.  The extra 10-15% for compliance pretty much screws the pooch now.
 
Chris Rosenberger said:
Brice Burrell said:
WarnerConstCo. said:
....I love working on old houses but, this mess just makes it discouraging, especially since 75% of the houses in my area are pre-'78, heck more like pre-'38.

95% of my work is on pre-1978 homes. [sad]

About the same here.
I believe this is another giveaway to the trial lawyers.

There are already firms out there advertising this and setting their cross hairs on the contractors.

It is another easy outlet for us to be sued.
I was joking around with someone about having potential customers submit to blood work before and after a project, just to see
what the lead levels in their blood is.  Seems far fetched but, better then someone coming after you years later.

there is talk about requiring 3rd party wipe down testing after project completion.  That service costs anywhere between 300-700 dollars and takes about a week to get results back.  So we have to keep the home owner's out of that space, or house until we are sure of the results?
 
Heh, pre 1978 my *.

I live in New England. 1978 is considered a 'newer' home! Average remod I work on is turn of the century....

What I would like to know is who is actually going to do the enforcement on this? I honestly cant see it happening at the federal level.
 
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