Sand paper sampler pack for rs2

[Zacharytanner]

Hi
I was wondering if anyone does a sampler pack for the RS2?
I plan on buying an RS2 and want to order a Systainer  with an assortment of paper as well.

Thanks
Frank

 

[tbellemare]

I make two sampler packs for the RS 2. One comes in the systainer and the other doesn't.

Tom

 

[rizzoa13]

I don't mean to be rude but does anyone else do an assortment pack for a lower price? A >50% markup to separate the different grits makes it pretty undesirable.

 

[tbellemare]

The price per sheet is calculated at an average of the cost per sheet for a full box or for a 10-pack. To me, that seems fair.

I not only have to do the work of counting and straightening the sheets but I also have to have a plethora of partial boxes. Additionally, when the product changes, as recently happened with Cristal and Rubin, I'm stuck with a lot of stuff that won't sell.

Tom

 

[Stephen B]

The price per sheet is calculated at an average of the cost per sheet for a full box or for a 10-pack. To me, that seems fair.

I not only have to do the work of counting and straightening the sheets but I also have to have a plethora of partial boxes. Additionally, when the product changes, as recently happened with Cristal and Rubin, I'm stuck with a lot of stuff that won't sell.

Tom

[size=11pt]
Tom, if you have only a 50% mark up, that is more than reasonable! given the task.  It is not as if you are not paying staff or have other associated costs with this service.

I do not know if you are only internet, or also have a shop front. In a shop, it might be different, if you had a rack of open boxes of popular grades and types and the customer came in and made their own selection.

But then you would be using rack space that could be displaying more tantalising Germanic goodies.  [big grin]

Edit. I assume, like my AUST dealer, you sold/are selling the old Stock in bulk and at significant discount.

 

[tbellemare]

'No brick and mortar here.

Tom

 

[cgmojoco]

The price per sheet is calculated at an average of the cost per sheet for a full box or for a 10-pack. To me, that seems fair.

I not only have to do the work of counting and straightening the sheets but I also have to have a plethora of partial boxes. Additionally, when the product changes, as recently happened with Cristal and Rubin, I'm stuck with a lot of stuff that won't sell.

Tom

If you have any older stuff that needs a sellin, ping me.

 

[RKA]

Last month I bought an assortment of Granat for an RTS sander from Tom.  I called him and he mixed up the exact number of sheets and grits I needed (different from the options he had on the website).  Even with the markup, it's worth it.  I don't use this one often enough to keep 100's of sheets on the shelf.  If I did, I'd be buying the boxes. 

Last year when I picked up my ETS 150/3, I ended up buying over 500 sheets of paper just to get the assortment I needed.  I didn't know anyone was offering the higher grits in smaller quantities.  It took me several weeks, ads here and on ebay and a dozen trips to the post office to unload the excess.  I would have gladly paid the mark up for the smaller quantity.

 

[rizzoa13]

I understand the reasoning behind why the assortment would cost more it's just a lot of money for the convenience. Having them packaged in the systainer with the dividers is more work and money out of pocket for you and there I feel the price is reasonable. But for you to pull them out of hundred packs and put them in a shipping box I think that much markup is too high. Sorry it's just my 2cents, and I know that's exactly what an opinion is worth too.  Hopefully you take my feedback for what it is.

 

[greg mann]

I understand the reasoning behind why the assortment would cost more it's just a lot of money for the convenience. Having them packaged in the systainer with the dividers is more work and money out of pocket for you and there I feel the price is reasonable. But for you to pull them out of hundred packs and put them in a shipping box I think that much markup is too high. Sorry it's just my 2cents, and I know that's exactly what an opinion is worth too.  Hopefully you take my feedback for what it is.

If you get nine other guys to buy the exact same assortment I'm sure Tom will give you a better price break. If he has to hold on to 90 sheets for every ten he sells you, well...............

 

[Bob Marino]

  I don't have assortment packs like Tom, but I have the 6", 5" RO90/Deltex papers broken down and available in 10 packs. I don't mean to be speaking for Tom, but will echo/add to what he has said - its a very labor intensive, time consuming task and you are left with lots of open boxes - and fingertips that get sanded as well [eek]. Surely labor time to open, pick, stack, sort and box them must be figured into the mix.

Bob

 

[rizzoa13]

Hmm sanded fingertips I'll remember that if I ever need to lose my finger prints for some perfectly legal reason  [thumbs up].

And Those 90 sheets from the hundred pack do still add up to 9x 10 packs if we're doing math...

 

[Bob Marino]

Hmm sanded fingertips I'll remember that if I ever need to lose my finger prints for some perfectly legal reason  [thumbs up].

And Those 90 sheets from the hundred pack do still add up to 9x 10 packs if we're doing math...

Well, here's some more math. There are over well 350 Festool dealers. I'm betting fewer than a dozen break down the larger boxes into either assortment packs or 10 packs. If it were as lucrative as you seem to be suggesting, I can assure you, there would be hundreds of dealers following suit. The reality is, it's way more a customer service offering (a good one I might add) than a money maker for all the reasons (and I did not include shipping - which usually costs more than the selling price of the 10 packs anyhow).

Bob

 

[Stephen B]

[size=11pt]

Obviously Rizzoa  has no realisation of a retail environment. As I inferred, before if Tom is truly only marking up 50%, then I would think this is a customer service, even a loss maker. A service that promotes customer satisfaction in the hope of further sales of items that do provide profit.

In the TY/hardware I work PT, sales margins range up to and sometimes over 300%. This is not profit. That comes after wages, sales rates and overheads are facted in.

Look at where, I live and you will see that  Tom is never likely to sell me something. But having read the tone and helpfulness of his remarks on the FOG, I have come to believe that he together with Bob and K119 provide good if not excellent and respectable services to their customers.

 

[bkharman]

While everyone is entitled to their opinion...  I don't agree with rizzoa here.

Go buy a 100 box of 7 different grits, split them up into 10 packs of 70 each and then sell them to individuals and collect payment and also make sure you let everyone here know you are doing it as well as web advertising.

After that, gripe about the 50% markup.

 

[kmdwoodwork]

I have bought 2 assortments from Tom in the past, one for the DTS without a systainer and one for the RO90 with a systainer. I feel that both were well worth the cost in order to get the number of grits for sanders that i don't use a lot.