Second Router

[DanielOB]

I have
oF1400 with all accessories Festool makes
Bosch Colt modified to accept the same bushing guide as oF1400
DeWalt 2.25 hp as table router

I need one router more :  1010 or 1400

1010 will ask to buy another set of accessories.

what is your choice 1010 or 1400 (not both).

 

[wow]

Do you use (or plan to use) the LR32 system? If so, then the OF1010 is my vote.

 

[Sparktrician]

Do you use (or plan to use) the LR32 system? If so, then the OF1010 is my vote.

+1! 

 

[semenza]

  If you have a lot of 1/2" shank bits but few 1/4" shank bits then a second 1400 might be the way to go. Otherwise it might make sense to go with the 1010 for added versatility. On the additional accessories, the 1010 is $100 less so that could go towards the accessories.  I guess the choice is somewhat dependent on what you plan to use it for? 

Seth

 

[waho6o9]

1400

 

[bkharman]

  If you have a lot of 1/2" shank bits but few 1/4" shank bits then a second 1400 might be the way to go. Otherwise it might make sense to go with the 1010 for added versatility. On the additional accessories, the 1010 is $100 less so that could go towards the accessories.  I guess the choice is somewhat dependent on what you plan to use it for? 

Seth

+ 1

This is the main reason I wouldn't get a 1010.

I would go trim router but you have a colt. I would also go 2200, but you can absolutely, positively, never, ever, never EVER put it in a CMS. 

 

[DanielOB]

I have no in plan to use LR32.
I have lots 1/4" and lots 1/2" bits
I will use that two Festool for
  dovetails
  drawers
  book shelfs
  kitchen shelfs
  making kitchen cabinets
  some tables
  to make my desk
  house entrance doors
  small nice boxes
  chairs
  countertop

Any more thinking on choice of the second router (1010 or 14000
Beside that two Festool i have modified Colt for 1400 size bushing guides, and i have DeWalt 2.25 hp. 

 

[wow]

I have no in plan to use LR32.
I have lots 1/4" and lots 1/2" bits
I will use that two Festool for
  dovetails
  drawers
  book shelfs
  kitchen shelfs
  making kitchen cabinets
  some tables
  to make my desk
  house entrance doors
  small nice boxes
  chairs
  countertop

Any more thinking on choice of the second router (1010 or 14000
Beside that two Festool i have modified Colt for 1400 size bushing guides, and i have DeWalt 2.25 hp.

With this information I would probably change my vote to a second OF1400 for several reasons:

• Both routers would be identical in size, weight and feel - no need to become familiar with a new router
• Both routers can use ANY of your bits - no need to 'plan' which bit goes where
• Both routers use the same accessories - although this could also mean you need to buy a second set?
• One router *can* do everything, should the other fail

After using the OF1010 I wouldn't want to be without one, so maybe build a spot for it in the future?

 

[shed9]

Having a 1400 and a 1010 will give more flexibility than two 1400's. They excel in there own ways.

 

[Sparktrician]

I used to think I'd have no use for the OF 1010 (I owned the OF 1400 and OF 2200 already) - that is until I got the chance to use one with the LR 32 and saw how much more productive it was to do line boring inside cabinets and bookcases compared to the line boring jig I had been using previously.  I also learned how much easier the OF 1010 is to use with a dovetail jig like the Leigh Superjig compared to the OF 1400.  Both do it well, even elegantly, but it's so much easier to use a light router for this task.  My only regret is that it took so long to come to the decision and enlightenment. 

 

[VW mick]

Having a 1400 and a 1010 will give more flexibility than two 1400's. They excel in there own ways.

I agree the OF1010 is a really nice router .i think you will benefit from having both. 

 

[DanielOB]

I have only one chance to get one Festool router more...
So two 1400 or 1010+1400 is final for my life.

What i do not like about 1010 is
- the plastic adapter for bushing guide. When (and if) it is gone for whatever reason i will be no more able to use bushing guides on 1010.
- accesories i have i cannot use with 1010
- i have "Colt" so all works for 1010 will be redirected to Colt.
- if i get 1010 colt will go out of my house, and i have two routers 1400+1010. If i get one more 1400 i keep colt and have 2x1400 + colt

But 1010 is so sweet. I am torn...

 

[grbmds]

If you can never buy another router, that is a decision I wouldn't want to make. It's a tough one and depends completely on your uses. I would think the OF1400 is the most versatile but, if you don't have a reason to set one up for a repetitive operation and keep it that way for long periods of time, I might just wait and see what the future holds in terms of use and new tools on the market.

 

[bkharman]

Ok. I will ask...

Why can't you get another router for the rest of your life?  Seems extreme, so if you wish to share I am sure others may have the same curiosity.

Bryan.

 

[Sparktrician]

What i do not like about 1010 is
- the plastic adapter for bushing guide. When (and if) it is gone for whatever reason i will be no more able to use bushing guides on 1010.

Use the 704R Guide Bushing adapter from Leigh Jigs.  It doesn't fit as tight to the OF 1010, making it more adjustable to get the guide bushing truly concentric with the OF 1010 (and it's not plastic). 

 

[sancho57]

I use the 1010 and 2200. I think thats all a person needs. The 1400 to me is a compromise router. Meaning it can do a little of what those 2 can do but not everything.

For all hand held routing , unless it requires a huge bit, I use the 1010. To tell ya the truth there is very little short of things that are restricted to table mounted routing that I cant do with my 1010.

Now with all that being said IMO only, which are like belly buttons everyone has one,

I would buy the 1010, sell the 1400 and when needed go pick up the 2200.

The 2200 is the finest router on the market IMO.

 

[DanielOB]

Bryan, I have a house (Home) in North Ontario, Canada. Soon i will move there, and i cannot order anything else over internet, and in Canada that roiuters are very expensive...

 

[grbmds]

I use the 1010 and 2200. I think thats all a person needs. The 1400 to me is a compromise router. Meaning it can do a little of what those 2 can do but not everything.

For all hand held routing , unless it requires a huge bit, I use the 1010. To tell ya the truth there is very little short of things that are restricted to table mounted routing that I cant do with my 1010.

Now with all that being said IMO only, which are like belly buttons everyone has one,

I would buy the 1010, sell the 1400 and when needed go pick up the 2200.

The 2200 is the finest router on the market IMO.

Just curious, what does the 1010 do that the 1400 wouldn't? So far, I've found the 1400 very versatile and full of all the power I need to do just about anything I would do. It may not be the best for under the table mounting, but I already have a Makita 2 3/4 HP 30-year old router which is plenty powerful mounted under my router table. When that dies some day I suppose I will have to consider an alternative, but it just doesn't die and is great (no speed control but you just adjust to that by taking lesser bites each time). So, just curious about your uses of both the 1010 and the 2200.

 

[ccarrolladams]

Just curious, what does the 1010 do that the 1400 wouldn't?

Back in 2006, when I bought my first Festools, I already owned several PC7518s, as well as some less powerful routers. I bought my first OF1010 for use with the LR32 system to drill shelf-pin holes and door hinge cup holes. Shortly after that I bought a second OF1010 to trim solid edge banding. Later I bought an OF2200 for hand routing.

Much later I bought an OF1400, but I hardly ever use it. The OF1010 is more than powerful enough to handle virtually all 1/4" shank router bits. It is a lot lighter when trimming edge banding. Its return springs are not as stiff as those on the OF1400 which saves a lot of effort when drilling LR32 holes.

 

[grbmds]

Just curious, what does the 1010 do that the 1400 wouldn't?

Back in 2006, when I bought my first Festools, I already owned several PC7518s, as well as some less powerful routers. I bought my first OF1010 for use with the LR32 system to drill shelf-pin holes and door hinge cup holes. Shortly after that I bought a second OF1010 to trim solid edge banding. Later I bought an OF2200 for hand routing.

Much later I bought an OF1400, but I hardly ever use it. The OF1010 is more than powerful enough to handle virtually all 1/4" shank router bits. It is a lot lighter when trimming edge banding. Its return springs are not as stiff as those on the OF1400 which saves a lot of effort when drilling LR32 holes.

So it sounds like the 1010 is better for the LR32 system if that is something I do in the future. Won't the 1400 work for that? I've looked at the 2200 and feel it is maybe a bit too large for some hand routing, although maybe it would work well in a table given its power. I know that people say a fixed router is best for tables, but my Makita was an early plunge and it works just fine, especially after I added an above the table add-on adjustment.