Sher-wood Kem aquA pLUS

[roblg3]

I'm going to start using this in a hvlp system.  I'm looking for a waterbourne stain to use under.  I wonder if anyone is using this and what they are using?  anyone got any advice?

 

[tjbnwi]

I have not used these stains yet, they came highly recommended from someone else;

http://www.ics-ilva.com/index.php

I have used these stains, they work very well;

http://www.targetcoatings.com/products/stains.html

Trans Tint dyes are a must;

http://homesteadfinishingproducts.com/transtint-liquid-dyes/

Water stains/dyes look very different then oils or solvent stain prior to top coating.

KA+ is a great product.

Tom

 

[Pnw painter]

I've yet to use the Kem Aqua Plus products, but I'd recommend talking to your local Sherwin Williams rep to see if they can offer any advice. Unless the SW store manager is knowledgeable, the reps are your best bet for accurate info.

You should also do a search on the www.painttalk.com forum because there are quite a few threads with a lot of info about Kem Aqua Plus.

 

[rmwarren]

I have not used these stains yet, they came highly recommended from someone else;

http://www.ics-ilva.com/index.php

I have used these stains, they work very well;

http://www.targetcoatings.com/products/stains.html

Trans Tint dyes are a must;

http://homesteadfinishingproducts.com/transtint-liquid-dyes/

Water stains/dyes look very different then oils or solvent stain prior to top coating.

KA+ is a great product.

Tom

Tom,

I am trying to color maple/birch ply (Home Depot stuff) to mate it up with Cherry hardwood edging. Not sure if this is possible, but I attempted the use a cherry gel stain on the ply and got minimum penetration/color.

In your experience would the TransTint work better/at all on the ply?

Full Disclosure - I absolutely suck at finishing. Must be a genetic flaw...

Thanks,

RMW

 

[duburban]

I've used trans tints on some projects. They are not UV stable so they will fade unless protected by something or not in direct sunlight. They are most commonly used in the finishing industry as a layering element and will help add depth and tone to a project. Usually they are the first layer applied and used under another stain. They can also be added to finishes as a way to change color tone in the top coat.

If you were to try to match cherry you would want to explore some of the ambers, reds, and the obvious in different concentrations. Because they are made to be either water or solvent activated ( i think trans tint is water, and transdye is solvent?) you can reactivate them with the thinner to blend, subtract, or add. Remember that this is a water product so popping the grain will happen. I used to hit the wood with plain water to mitigate this but don't remember it helping a ton.

This is certainly a story board type of finishing system where you want to really test it out before muddying up a bunch of wood.

 

[roblg3]

I can say one thing that I know for a fact about color/name of stain...it's %100 made up by the company that manufactures it.A cherry stain is never the same color from one to the next.  Forget about names.  Look at colors only.  You will have to use something significantly darker on birch to come close to the color on the cherry.  that's just wood dynamics.  there will be lots of testing necessary to figure it out. 

 

[junk731]

I'm going to start using this in a hvlp system.  I'm looking for a waterbourne stain to use under.  I wonder if anyone is using this and what they are using?  anyone got any advice?

I got setup with stains from General Finishes, there WB RTM line works quite well. Check the link.
https://generalfinishes.com/professional-products/color-matching-tinting-system#.VFyzR_nF8qc

I also use FX dyes when needed. My go to finishes are mainly Target EM2000 Alkyd Varnish and EM9300 Poly. Hard to find a good place to get Sherwin products up here. Tried a few stores and gave up.

John

 

[tjbnwi]

I have not used these stains yet, they came highly recommended from someone else;

http://www.ics-ilva.com/index.php

I have used these stains, they work very well;

http://www.targetcoatings.com/products/stains.html

Trans Tint dyes are a must;

http://homesteadfinishingproducts.com/transtint-liquid-dyes/

Water stains/dyes look very different then oils or solvent stain prior to top coating.

KA+ is a great product.

Tom

Tom,

I am trying to color maple/birch ply (Home Depot stuff) to mate it up with Cherry hardwood edging. Not sure if this is possible, but I attempted the use a cherry gel stain on the ply and got minimum penetration/color.

In your experience would the TransTint work better/at all on the ply?

Full Disclosure - I absolutely suck at finishing. Must be a genetic flaw...

Thanks,

RMW

Sorry about the delay, I missed your post.

Gel stains do not penetrate, this makes them better for materials that will blotch.

Yes Trans Tint will work better. As mentioned above it is not UV stabile. Kem Aqua + is UV stable, use it as you top coat.

Test, test, then test again. Get a finishers color wheel.

I need to look into the GF system.

Tom