Shop Fox Moulder

Read everything so far and no mention of Scully ?? [sad]
 
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Justin, Thanks for the reply. I have no experience with the new Williams and Hussey machines nor any of the Shop Fox molders. The newer W&H come with the multi pass kit and variable speed which I'm sure produces a better cut than the single speed version.

I've run thousands of feet through various W&H with good results, other than about fifty feet of wildly figured cherry that was willing to self destruct rather than be molded into crown. It's one of those machines that, should I loose it, I'd replace it ASAP.

John
 
Knight Woodworks said:
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Justin, Thanks for the reply. I have no experience with the new Williams and Hussey machines nor any of the Shop Fox molders. The newer W&H come with the multi pass kit and variable speed which I'm sure produces a better cut than the single speed version.

I've run thousands of feet through various W&H with good results, other than about fifty feet of wildly figured cherry that was willing to self destruct rather than be molded into crown. It's one of those machines that, should I loose it, I'd replace it ASAP.

John

I have the variable speed option on the Shop Fox and can usually do multiple passes even if it requires tweaking the feed roller pressure. I got it for a great price second hand but unused.  The small moulders may not have the speed of the industrial units but they give a lot of capability to a small shop and produce really good product.
 
With the cost of the machine and materials how many feet do you have to run to get you money back and start making money?  Basically what I'm asking is it worth owning one of these machines or keep buying the profiles from the lumber yard.  I know that there are more options in custom moldings. 
 
Tyler Ernsberger said:
With the cost of the machine and materials how many feet do you have to run to get you money back and start making money?  Basically what I'm asking is it worth owning one of these machines or keep buying the profiles from the lumber yard.  I know that there are more options in custom moldings.

Never really worked out that equation. There are a lot of factors like regional lumber cost, volume discounts on material, cost of knives, size and profile of the moulding, type of tools you have to process out moulding blanks, disposal of chips, etc.  On average I pay $65 per inch for a pair of knives and I can set up a knife.  Processing the blanks for the tool to run takes me a lot more time than actually running the profiles. 

I buy more moulding than I run but the stuff I run is milled to much tighter tolerances than most of the trim I buy.  The small machines are great for matching profiles , radius casing , and short one off runs but won't be cost effective for running all the trim for a house. 
 
Knight Woodworks said:
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Hah - you thought I was being flippant! [big grin]

Can't find anything like this down in Oz .. only things I've seen are monster moulding machines that cost megabucks.

Every search I do and try and refine to a local region ends up returning x-files or fox sports results [embarassed] [sad] [mad]

I'm guessing this one on US Amazon is a good examplehttps://www.amazon.com/Shop-Fox-W1812-Planer-Moulder/dp/B001OQW4B2

I'm curious about blade life too. Those cutters would appear that they do a lot of work.

 
Probably not cost effective to make lumberyard moldings. I agree with Justin, the small molders are best for matching profiles you can't readily get, curves, hardwoods
and short runs.

I typically get 2,000-3,000 lineal feet of molding using Domestic species before the knives need sharpening. Less if the stock is knotty. I suspect you'd get less with most of the gnarly stuff that grows in OZ.

I buy most of my knives from Charles G.G. Schmidt & Co.

John
 
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