Shop vac to Festool hose...

[Wood_Junkie]

I know someone will know the answer to this... I can't put hands-on the various parts to do a 'real life test' (no local shops have 'em in stock or know the answer).

I want to attach my shop vac (in the garage) to a non-antistatic 36mm hose.  What adapter will work to connect a "standard" shop vac hose/hose connector to a Festool hose?
IIRC shop-vac hose connectors taper from about 2 1/2" to 2 1/4" or so...  I would like something that allows quick disconnection and reconnection.

Purposes:  Still use shop vac hookup with my bandsaw and for other cleanup.  Quick connect to a 36mm hose to use with my TS55 / jigsaw / etc when needed, which would eliminate my need/desire to carry the CT up from the basement all the time.

Here are the candidates:
http://www.festoolusa.com/products/dust-extractors/reducing-hose-sleeves/hose-sleeve-antistatic-connector-sleeve-493047.html

http://www.festoolusa.com/products/dust-extractors/reducing-hose-sleeves/hose-sleeve-nonantistatic-hose-reducer-452897.html

Or do I need something different that's not listed here?

OR, alternatively (and much cheaper) has anyone used this Ridgid hose/adapter kit to connect with Festool hoses / dust ports?
http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware-Wet-Dry-Vacuums-Accessories/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xl5Zb8pd/R-100375877/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

 

[Corwin]

Any of the Festool hoses should plug directly into your ShopVac.  Mine do.  So, if that works for you, you wouldn't need any adapter(s).

If you prefer to attach a Festool hose to the end of your ShopVac hose, the Connector Sleeve should work.  Again, it does fit on my ShopVac hose.  I cannot comment on a ShopVac hose connector since I don't own one.

 

[Forrest Anderson]

The Festool Tech Notes article titled How to connect two hoses might be of interest, as it starts off with the following paragraph...

All Festool Dust extractors have vacuum inlets that accept any 50mm or 2 inch standard hose ends. The 2 inch standard hose measures 2 inches, or 50mm on the INSIDE Dimension. The outside diameter of a standard 2? hose end coupler is actually 2 1/4", and the inlet in the Festool dust extractor has a 2 1/4" opening. This is the standard in the industry for most shop vacs. Any 2" standard hose will fit the Festool machines.

Forrest

 

[RDMuller]

If you can't find the correct adaptor, make one by taking the top of an aerosol spray can that fits on one side of the items  you are trying to connect.  You may need to use duct tape to hold this in place.  Drill out the other end of the cap with a hole saw or whatever you have at your disposal.  Drill it slightly undersize if possible so that you can shove the other hose into it and have it slightly constricted so it will stay.  This has rescued me several times and while it may not be elegant, it is certainly practical

 

[Wood_Junkie]

Thanks for the info everyone. 

Now, the question I'm grappling with is:  spend roughly $100-$125 buying a hose and connector to be able to hook up my shop-vac... or use that $125 to buy another CT.. maybe even another Midi to save on stocking consummables.

If I wanted to save money, I'd get the non-AS hose... but if I later get another CT, then that hose is basically useless and a waste... 
Get 36mm hose, which would be much better with my shop vac (and Midi), but would require an adapter (reducing to 27mm nozzle) to use with some tools...  so that's a big extra expense unless someone has 10"-12" of antistatic hose they'd like to sell so I can make an adapter.  ;-)

Bleh

 

[Corwin]

Thanks for the info everyone. 

Now, the question I'm grappling with is:  spend roughly $100-$125 buying a hose and connector to be able to hook up my shop-vac... or use that $125 to buy another CT.. maybe even another Midi to save on stocking consummables.

If I wanted to save money, I'd get the non-AS hose... but if I later get another CT, then that hose is basically useless and a waste... 
Get 36mm hose, which would be much better with my shop vac (and Midi), but would require an adapter (reducing to 27mm nozzle) to use with some tools...  so that's a big extra expense unless someone has 10"-12" of antistatic hose they'd like to sell so I can make an adapter.  ;-)

Bleh

Decisions, decisions...  Since you already have both a CT and a Midi, and the D27 hoses that came with them, why not simply purchase the D36-AS hose?  You can readily swap hoses for the tools that require the D27, and the D36-AS would be a great addition to the Festool extractors you already have.  Or, maybe I just don't understand the problem...

 

[Wood_Junkie]

Figured I'd post a follow up on this.

First, the standard 50mm hose end that comes on the D36 and D27 hoses does NOT allow direct connection with a standard shop-vac (tapered) end.  They are basically the same size in both ID and OD.  You could probably directly put the hose on there and clamp it, but I wanted quick-disconnect.

However, part #493047 does the trick, allowing a friction fit with the 50mm end as well as allowing the tapered shop-vac end to snugly secure. 

A few side notes:  Festool Junkie sells a reasonably price anti-static D36 hose that is about 7 feet long.  Apparently it's aimed as Kapex use, but for my shop-vac to TS55/OF1400 use, it'll do the trick. 

And Bob M. is hooking me up with a D27 adapter, a la Dave Ronyak (sp?) and his double-ended D27 "pigtail".  Easy to make, but I don't have 15-18" of D27 hose laying around, or care to buy a full-length one and chop it up.  Possibly a larger market there people!

 

[Corwin]

First, the standard 50mm hose end that comes on the D36 and D27 hoses does NOT allow direct connection with a standard shop-vac (tapered) end.  They are basically the same size in both ID and OD.  You could probably directly put the hose on there and clamp it, but I wanted quick-disconnect.

Why would you expect the "50mm hose end that comes on the D36 and D27 hoses" to connect to the end of a ShopVac hose?  That's trying to plug two male ends together -- ain't gunna go.  But, any of the Festool hoses will plug directly into your ShopVac -- that's the vac itself, not the end of a hose. 

 

[NVA_WW]

And Bob M. is hooking me up with a D27 adapter, a la Dave Ronyak (sp?) and his double-ended D27 "pigtail".  Easy to make, but I don't have 15-18" of D27 hose laying around, or care to buy a full-length one and chop it up.  Possibly a larger market there people!

I would be interested in learning more about the Bob Marino D27 adapter.  How much does it cost?  How can we order it?  More info, please  [big grin]

 

[Bob Marino]

And Bob M. is hooking me up with a D27 adapter, a la Dave Ronyak (sp?) and his double-ended D27 "pigtail".  Easy to make, but I don't have 15-18" of D27 hose laying around, or care to buy a full-length one and chop it up.  Possibly a larger market there people!

I would be interested in learning more about the Bob Marino D27 adapter.  How much does it cost?  How can we order it?  More info, please  [big grin]

Ok, here's the Dave R post:
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/ct-hoses/
I did the same thing. Here's mine

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The price is $50.00, including shipping. Until I have it set up in my warehouse, with a new skew number, if ordering on-line, just add it to the Comments Section, send me an email or give me a call.

 Bob

 

[K.T.]

Bob, what other goodies do you have in your warehouse that are not on your website? "Enquiring" minds want to know  ;D

 

[Bob Marino]

Bob, what other goodies do you have in your warehouse that are not on your website? "Enquiring" minds want to know  ;D

Hi  K T,

Well, that wasn't  even in my warehouse, I just assembled it in my shop an hour ago! Other than that, that's it .

Bob

 

[Wood_Junkie]

Well, that wasn't  even in my warehouse, I just assembled it in my shop an hour ago! Other than that, that's it .

Bob

Mine mine!  Mine?

LOL, I was literally just about to email you.  Charge it.  Ship it.    [tongue]
You rock, Bob. 

 

[Bob Marino]

Mine mine!  Mine?

LOL, I was literally just about to email you.  Charge it.  Ship it.     [tongue]
You rock, Bob.  

Thanks, Rob. You got a deal!

Bob

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[Wood_Junkie]

Mine mine!  Mine?

LOL, I was literally just about to email you.  Charge it.  Ship it.     [tongue]
You rock, Bob.  

Thanks, Rob. You got a deal!

Bob

How long is that end-to-end, and for the "exposed" hose section?  Using the MFT holes for reference, it looks to be about 19" and 15", respectively.  Pretty close?

You didn't answer the better question:  "what other goodies do you have in your warehouse that are not on your website?"    [big grin]

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[Bob Marino]

22" End to End, 14" Exposed hose.

Nothing hiding in the warehose..that I know of .

Bob

How long is that end-to-end, and for the "exposed" hose section?  Using the MFT holes for reference, it looks to be about 19" and 15", respectively.  Pretty close?

You didn't answer the better question:  "what other goodies do you have in your warehouse that are not on your website?"    [big grin]

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[wnagle]

Bob,

Another idea fro you would be to make a similar adapter for the kapex.  A 36mm hose with a standard tool end on one end, and a shop vac end on the other end.  Use the shop vac end into the Festool double female, then into the 50mm that goes to the vac.  The length of the 36mm hose could be a few inches to a few feet, depending on how flexible it would need to be on the kapex.

 

[Bob Marino]

Bob,

Another idea fro you would be to make a similar adapter for the kapex.  A 36mm hose with a standard tool end on one end, and a shop vac end on the other end.  Use the shop vac end into the Festool double female, then into the 50mm that goes to the vac.  The length of the 36mm hose could be a few inches to a few feet, depending on how flexible it would need to be on the kapex.

Hi Wayne,

Thanks, but I am having trouble understanding your suggestions. What item is the "Festool double female"?Is that the "Y PIECE" item 452898?

Bob

 

[Brice Burrell]

Bob,

Another idea fro you would be to make a similar adapter for the kapex.  A 36mm hose with a standard tool end on one end, and a shop vac end on the other end.  Use the shop vac end into the Festool double female, then into the 50mm that goes to the vac.  The length of the 36mm hose could be a few inches to a few feet, depending on how flexible it would need to be on the kapex.

Wayne, I'm not sure but this may be a better alternative (if I understand what your trying to do correctly), the suction adapter #452897 is the funnel shaped piece that will join a 50 mm to Kapex. check out this thread. 50 mm hose to the Kapex.

 

[wnagle]

Bob,

The 493047, http://www.festoolusa.com/products/dust-extractors/reducing-hose-sleeves/hose-sleeve-antistatic-connector-sleeve-493047.html will connect the shop vac end of a 500mm to the shopp vac end of the 36mm.

As I understand it the 50mm hose has the same shop vac end on both ends.  When reduced to the 36mm for hook up to the Kapex or other applications, you avoid using the non antistatic cone shaped adapter.  The cone shaped adapter is reduced to fit inside the kapex fitting which reduces suction and air flow more than the 36mm tool end that fits on the outside of the kapex fitting.  The anti static properties will remain with the set up suggested but are lost with the cone shaped adapter.

This is a nice option with other applications as well.  It's the same concept as your "Dave Ronyak" 36mm to 27mm adapter, only it's a 50mm to 36mm adapter.  Just a shortened 36mm hose.

Not sure if it's worth the effort or not.  The more I think about it, it may be too stiff and cumbersome if it's really short and hooked to the 50mm.  Depending on the application, custom lengths to fit each application would be best I guess.