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I had to shovel about 127mm  (5" for you non metric dudes  [tongue])  of some fresh white power today.

Did it  old school......with a shovel.

Every year the wife ask is I want a snow blower or a plow for my truck.    Each year I decline.    I like the exercise.  And I like to time myself.  Crazy I know, but I like to see how fast I can shovel the driveway.  For some reason I can't break  40 minutes.  I must be getting slow in my old age.  [wink]

Eric
 
erock said:
I had to shovel about 127mm  (5" for you non metric dudes  [tongue])  of some fresh white power today.

Did it  old school......with a shovel.

Every year the wife ask is I want a snow blower or a plow for my truck.    Each year I decline.    I like the exercise.  And I like to time myself.  Crazy I know, but I like to see how fast I can shovel the driveway.  For some reason I can't break  40 minutes.  I must be getting slow in my old age.  [wink]

Eric

Surely you have done a video of this, yes?  [smile]
 
Jeff Zanin said:
erock said:
I had to shovel about 127mm  (5" for you non metric dudes  [tongue])  of some fresh white power today.

Did it  old school......with a shovel.

Every year the wife ask is I want a snow blower or a plow for my truck.    Each year I decline.    I like the exercise.  And I like to time myself.  Crazy I know, but I like to see how fast I can shovel the driveway.  For some reason I can't break  40 minutes.  I must be getting slow in my old age.  [wink]

Eric

Surely you have done a video of this, yes?  [smile]

LOL !    Hey man, if you want to watch a video of me shoveling my driveway for 40 minutes......you need more time in the shop!  [tongue]

Plus!  I would NEVER produce a video of me falling while shoveling!    It happened !  It was funny !  But not recorded !

Eric
 
Tinker,

  That cab over must be nice since you can actually see the blade while plowing?

Seth
 
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SRSemenza said:
Tinker,

  That cab over must be nice since you can actually see the blade while plowing?

Seth

The first driveway i did with it was one where I approached the garage/parking area at the top of a short rise.  At the top, the area leveled off, but with my previous 1T truck, all I could see was sky.  i never could see where I was pushing the snow.  It was sort of by memory with each overlapping push of the snow.  I could only see where I had pushed the snow when i backed down away from the area and could see where I had been.

My experience with that cab forward truck had been no more than to drive home from the dealer, have a quick bite to eat and out to plow snow.  I went to that job first and even tho I could see the whole driveway from the cab, I made a complete mess.  Without an expansive hood out in front of me, and the plow blade in close and almost under my feet, I had no idea where i was.  A lot of driving, even tho eyesight is important, comes dwn to an awareness of where you are in relation to where you are wanting to go.  I found that out very quickly, but also adjusted to driving that truck very quickly.

The big problem for me was, that in time, I began to notice that after plowing and using the clutch for 8 or 10 hours, i found I could barely walk when climbing down out of the cab.  My left knee did not seem to have any interest in following any of my orders to bend, or straighten, as the situation determined. Even my right knee was starting to have inclinations to disobey. My son finally talked me into getting that little pickup with power everything and, above all in importance, an automatic tranny.  Wow, I can walk again!  It's a myrical!!!

Tinker

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Alex,

  Is that lifting eye on top of the blower just to aid removal?
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Seth
 

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Dig the chains, Seth!

How much snow do you get each year? You have WAY more than we do. In fact I haven't had to clear snow once this year - yet.
 
wow said:
... In fact I haven't had to clear snow once this year - yet.

I've never had to clear snow, in fact I've only actually been in it once, and that was in Tucson.

Nice snow moving machines, looks like clearing snow is a lot of fun.  [smile]
 
wow said:
Dig the chains, Seth!

How much snow do you get each year? You have WAY more than we do. In fact I haven't had to clear snow once this year - yet.

  Being in the middle of NYS we tend to catch the edge of most southern storms and the edge of most northern storms. I am just guesstimating that at my house about 40" so far. Syracuse is a bit north and I think they are around 75". North of Syracuse off the end of the Great Lakes gets hammered ... all the time, every year. 

    Took that picture today. I just had some wind blown drifts to clear out of the driveway today.

Seth
 
joraft said:
wow said:
... In fact I haven't had to clear snow once this year - yet.

I've never had to clear snow, in fact I've only actually been in it once, and that was in Tucson.

Nice snow moving machines, looks like clearing snow is a lot of fun.  [smile]

Sno plowing is fun for some idiots >>> like me.  I have been fighting sno since in the 1940's, and maybe even 1939 when i first moved to my uncle's farm.  I used the old hickory boom type plow with armstrong power.  As mentioned earlier post, we had to pen a long driveway every morning to get milk truck in to the milk house.  We all pitched in for that project.  Later, when I had moved from the fem, and in HS, my brother and i had a sno shovel route.  we shoveled 5 driveways every storm.  One was about 300 feet long and it was a "drifter".  we saved that one for last on the list.  The owners would stock up on necessities whenever a storm was in the forecast.  A couple of seasons, we would just get them cleared from the last storm, they would go to the Town Line liquor store (or town was dry at that time so the closest they could get their "medication" was town line of next town) for a week's supply and then to the grocery store.  by time they got home, the snow was already falling.  A few times, we even stayed home from school to shovel that driveway.  One year, we hired a couple of friends to help us.  Two guys would climb up to top of banks along side of the driveway and toss the snow from last storm back away from the top of the piles while two of us shoveled the driveway.  sometimes, when we were done, we had to go back and shovel the drifts that had blown in.

During snow storms while i was in HS, i had a buddy who happened to have a screw lose , The same screw that had been missing from my head. there was a hill that people would get stuck on when getting home from the railroad commute.  joe and i would head for the bottom of that hill and just wait tl somebody could not get up that hill.  by the time panic was beginning to set in, one of us would be knocking on the car window and offering our assistance. If they were already off the road and in the sno bank, we shoveled them out.  If only spinning their wheels, one of us would get into the car behind the wheel, back the car to bottom of the hill and back to the corner where the road was flat, with foot to the floor on gas pedal, we would fly up the hill. Sometimes, we had to do quite a lot of "fishtailing" to the owner's horror, but we would make it to the top. Some people would give us 5 or 10 bucks. Others would just thank the gods that they and their car were still alive and go on their way.  We either saw them with the next storm, or the went the long route so they would not have to brave that hill.  I had other adventures, all exciting to be out in the storms for a year or two after i got out of the service.  With time, i decided that since i was going out in the storms, and it was exciting to me, there is no doubt about that, i bought a 4x4 pickup and put a plow on it.  That was in 1956.  i have been out to plow for every storm since.  The onlystorm i missed was a few years ago, i had had surgery on my neck, the sort of thing where they extracted some bone from some cadaver and inserted, along with screws, nuts and bolts.  I wanted to go out for that storm, but the thunder got way too loud.  I think i may have been threatened with shotgun for that one.  Any how, the screws stayed tight and the next storm (actually the first storm of the ext season, i was back out there playing in the snow.  I think i will finally retire when I reach forty. ::) 

It is some times scary on some of the hills.  i have gotten stuck a few times, but take my time with shovel and do manage to extract.  sometimes, since we have cell phones, i can call my son to come pull me out.  sometimes, i have to pull him out.  We do not plow while sno is still coming down.  we found out many moons ago, that when the snow is still coming down, and we are trying to plow, we become a part of the problem instead of the solution.  Thru the years, I have shoveled sno, coal, sawdust, cow manure, and a  lot of dirt for house and garage construction.  i have logged for lumber as well as firewood.  A lot of heavy work in both masonry and carpentry. Heavy lifting during haying time in the hottest days of summer.  A lot of very strenuous work thru the years, but no job i have done, or attempted is as downright tiring as plowing snow.  There has to still be a screw loose somewhere, I still get a measure of excitement when a storm is coming.  Still, even tho it is tiring, there seems to be a certain amount of relaxation involved in the job.  That may not make a lot of sense to many, but I will still keep going out to open up driveways no matter how deep the snow.  It is still fun for idiots >>> like me.
Tinker
 
I have a funny story from back in the late 1950's or early 60's.  I have a lot of funny stories about sno plowing, but this was (to me) a standout.  I looked back into my computer records and only found short mention of the incident.  The story below is mostly from memory, but it is the sort that I have told many times with  no change.  The ending is something i will always remember as long as i live.  I will probably still be telling it when i get to those gates >>> whichever way i end up going.  I hope it gives you FOGgers a laugh as well.

The phone was ringing as I walked into the kitchen.  I had just gotten home from widening driveways.  There was sno on the way and I needed to push back some of the snow banks from previous storms.  I never charged for that part of my job as it was as much for my own convenience as for my customers.  It made the job of clearing away the snow from the next storm a whole lot easier on my truck.  As for me, I just enjoyed being out in the snow.  I have to admit, it was even more fun when the money rolled in from all of my endeavores.  My charges for normal snowstorms were, I believed, quite reasonable.  I was charging for the original plow jobs.  The cleaning up between storms was not something I was adding to the bill.  I was usually slow in my day type job of masonry anyhow.  I had to do something to get out of the house.  My truck appreciated the extra work as the work of moving the next snow would be so much easier on transmission, engine, chains and all other moving, and even non moving parts. It just made a lot of sense all around, and especially in the customers’ eyes.  They appreciated that I was doing my very best to keep their driveways opened thru storms of all sizes and conditions.

“Hello.”

“Mr. Tinker?” I heard from the other end of the line.

“Yes”

“I’m John Jones at 12 Valley Road and Ah want y’all ta quit plowin’ ma drahvway”

I asked what was wrong, as he sounded a little upset in the way he was presenting himself.  “Well ah jes thinkin’ y’all chragin’ too much fer what y’all doin’”  He continued, "I see y’all out heyah plowin’ all the time, an ah think y’all gettinn’ away with too much.” 

I kept talking with him to find out what was really bugging him.  I explained that I was only charging for the orignal plowing and the extra cleanup was to make it easier and less dangerous for the next storm. I had nthing to do and it made it a lot easier on my equipment.  He kept on with expanding his original complaint, getting more and more irritated, AND irritating.  I finally asked, “Mr. Jones, I can tell by your accent that you are not from anywhere near New England.  You are certainly not from Connecticut.” 

He indicated he was from Alabama.  He had lived there all his life until his very recent move to ‘this God forsaken place.’

“Mr. Jones, I am sure you may not ever have even seen snow, certainly not anywhere near what you have seen around here.”

“Well ah maht not have seen snow, but I know a snow job when ah see one.”

I continued, “ Mr. Jones, I am taking into account that you really don’t understand what I have been doing and maybe you think you can do better.  You don’t really have any idea of what is ahead for you, this winter, or any winter.  I’ll accept that for your lack of experience.  I am sure that, unless you find somebody else to do your plowing (sno blowers were not yet around), you will need my services somewhere along the way.  If you get stuck, please don’t hesitate to give me a call.  I will be glad to help out.”  With very little further conversation, we said our goodbyes and hung up. 

That evening we had about 8”s of wet snow.  A couple of days later, another 6”s.  within a few days, we had about 15 or 16”s of very wet and heavy snow that changed to rain, settling the sno back to about 12”s on top of the two previous storms that week.  That March turned out to be the snowiest month on record for many years until quite recently when we had not only the snowiest month, but the snowiest year (2010-2011 I believe).  My Alabama friend had managed to pack the snow in his driveway and continued driving in and out, even tho there was a slight, and curvy incline from the roadway up to his garage.  In the best of situations, the driveway was very deceptive, being a lot more difficult to plow than it appeared.  I knew they were headed for a problem.

I had finished my route and had returned home for a bite to eat and some much needed rest when the phone rang.  It was Mrs. Jones on the line and was hopeful that I could help her out.  She was stuck in her driveway.  I asked which end of the driveway was she stuck in. I was hoping she was either at the very top close to her garage, or at the very bottom where I could hook a chain to her bumper (in those days, bumpers were a little more solid than tissue paper) and snake her out.  She said she was stuck half way up and could I please get her car  out and to plow the whole driveway.

When I got to the house, I took one look and realized I would have a lot of problem.  I took the time to put chains on all four wheels before attempting to do anything.  I got her car out and driveway cleaned up, went home and made out a bill.

I thought I would have a little fun, expecting to get a real rebuffing when they got the bill.  I really did not expect to be paid in full.  I certainly did not really expect the reaction I received.

I had itemized the bill with full charges the same as I had billed each of his neighbors for the three storms of that week.  A charge for extracting the car as if a wrecker had been called.  Moving the car to the main street and returning to their garage when I finished. Extra for having to put on chains.  Extra wear and tear on the truck for having to push extra high and heavily packed snow and an extra 15 dollar charge for the extra agrevation.  That last charge was tacked on with the expectation that it would have been the last straw.  They probably would only pay no more than half of my bill.

About three days later, I came home and saw an envelope on the kitchen table (the kitchen has always been my office.  I like to eat while doing my bookkeeping  ::) ::)) It’s contents made it appear a whole lot thicker than it would have been had there only been a check within.  The return address made me think the worst, but I opened the envelope quickly to see what was to be said.

The note, and even tho much of above has not been repeated verbatim, I remember that note word for word.  The note:

Dear Mr. Tinker
It sometimes takes us city folk a little time to become used to and to understand you country folks’ ways.  My husband and I both think you are doing a wonderful job.
Please continue taking care of our driveway.
Thank you,
Mrs. Jones.

I still have that note tucked away somewhere in my old papers.  I laughed for sometime afterwards.  I knew the woman meant what she said.  I had looked at the check she had sent.  There was an extra ten dollars over all that I had billed her.

It has been situations like this that have made sno plowing fun for so many years.  it is not so much the operation itself, but the great people we meet along the way and the fun we have had with those people.  That makes sno plowing out to be none work. And many great stories to relate.

Tinker
 
Great story, Tinker! You seem to have a ton of them for a man who's only 39?

[poke]

Remind me to tell you mine about the time I sold a big screen TV to a blind man...and he thanked me!
 
@ wow
Go ahead with you story.  The TV was probably afflicted with snowy screen anyhow, so it would not be way off topic.  besides, who am i to complain about "off topic"  [unsure] [big grin]
Tinker
 
Tinker said:
@ wow
Go ahead with you story.  The TV was probably afflicted with snowy screen anyhow, so it would not be way off topic.  besides, who am i to complain about "off topic"  [unsure] [big grin]
Tinker

Did anyone ever tell you that you have a warped sense of things? I really like that about you!

[big grin]

OK, here goes. In the early 80's Mrs. WOW and I owned a small electronics store. We had a customer who stopped in often who was blind.

One day he was standing in front of the TV's and I chided him that he certainly didn't need one since he was blind! He and I joked around a bit, and he told me wanted it to 'watch' rented movies on (this was a new idea at that time) and for something to entice a date over. I proceeded to convince him that "if he was trying to impress the ladies, bigger was better - in every way. Know what I mean?"

[wink]

He bought the biggest TV we had, and came back later to tell me that it was the best date 'enhancement' he'd ever found. He got what he wanted, and I got a story about how I sold a big-screen TV to a blind man!

[thumbs up]
 
Another 8 inches this weekend here in Eastern MA. I snow-blow our 2 driveways, the elderly lady's across the street and a run for the dog out back. Takes me about 45 mins per storm.
 
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