Spot Repair Scraper

[jmbfestool]

I dont know if any one seen it but I received a Festool letter last week and noticed this NEW in the book and look down to see what it was.

http://www.festool.co.uk/products/accessories/pages/detail.aspx?pid=497525&name=spot-sander-and-sanding-pads-lzk-hm

then I carried on looking down and noticed the price £53   [eek] [scared] Well that is an expensive scraper!

JMB

 

[Deansocial]

yeah i saw it wednesday when i got te book. i thought thats expensive for a bit of carbide,

 

[jonny round boy]

yeah i saw it wednesday when i got te book. i thought thats expensive for a bit of carbide,

It's not that expensive for a solid block of high-quality carbide that size. Still, it's more than I would pay (though I don't need one, so any price would be more than I would pay).

 

[grobin]

Maybe they will make a cheaper cordless version [big grin]

 

[neeleman]

Jmbfestool, you can better change the title of the post in:
Spot repair in stead of sport repair.
I assume that's still possible from the owner of the post.

 

[jmbfestool]

Jmbfestool, you can better change the title of the post in:
Spot repair in stead of sport repair.
I assume that's still possible from the owner of the post.

Changed! I didnt realise! The Letters T and R are next to each other so I must of pressed both at the same time SOZ!

JMB

 

[grobin]

I guess that I can't get excited about the price.  Here is the USD 215 scraper that I use. Great for removing old paint and tearout.

 

[AlexThePalex]

I guess that I can't get excited about the price.  Here is the USD 215 scraper that I use. Great for removing old paint and tearout.

That's not the same. Spot repair is for cars. Good luck with a scraper plane on a car. [wink]

If the entire thing is made out of carbide then 53 pounds doesn't sound unreasonable. What I don't get is why the entire thing should be made out of carbide in the first place.

 

[GPowers]

Looks like Festool is minting there own coins now at that price  [big grin]

 

[grobin]

That's not the same. Spot repair is for cars.

???
I did body work for some years when I was racing.  I'd as soon try the scraper plane on a car as that Spot scraper.  May be good for some small tearout of repair on wood but useless on sheet metal or fiberglass.

 

[AlexThePalex]

That's not the same. Spot repair is for cars.

???
I did body work for some years when I was racing.  I'd as soon try the scraper plane on a car as that Spot scraper.  

You would really use that scraper plane of 25 cm long on a speck of dust smaller than a millimeter? How can you even see it? How do you protect the rest of the paint? I guess the demands for a racing coat must be a lot different than for luxury cars then. I grew up in a body shop and at our place, nobody in his right mind would try to butcher a freshly painted body part with a tiny flaw in it with something like a scraper plane. In the very rare case of a speck of dust in the paint it would be treated with the utmost delicacy. The method you suggest seems to me like using a hedge trimmer to cut your nails.  

May be good for some small tearout of repair on wood but useless on sheet metal or fiberglass.

I don't understand this sentence at all. Why would Festool even place this in the automotive section if it wasn't any good on sheet metal or fiberglass? Why would all body shops have some sort of minute scraper like this in their spot repair kit? I know we had. Spot repair is like it says, for a damaged spot which means it's size ranges from smaller than one millimeter to 3 or 4 at the max (dust specks on new paint or most commonly, grit impacts on old paint).  

 

[Pyotr]

Alex: Grobin thinks that both the plane and the Festool scraper suck for spot repair on cars. At least, that is my interpretation of his words; but English can be a tricky language and I am not a native speaker either  [wink]

I did see the scraper at a Dutch woodworking event (Vakbeurs Hout) and it did sound interesting, but too expensive to just give it a try.

 

[jvsteenb]

For spot repair like in a body shop, this would be a boon. It's hard to actually tell from the picture, but it seems like the put on different radiusses on the corners as well, a nice touch. There's a hole in the center to attach it to a push/pull handle of sorts, and the cord assures it will stay with you and won't get lost. If this repair scraper is made out of the same high quality ( Leitz?? ) micrograin carbide that Festool uses for theitr router bits and sawblades, it's not overly expensive. I won't say it's a steal, but it certainly is moderately priced.

Without a decent spraying booth, small insects are often a problem, much more so than dust. This kind of tool enables you to get rid of the average drosophila ( fruit fly ) without having to redo the whole surface.

Regards,

Job

 

[AlexThePalex]

Without a decent spraying booth, small insects are often a problem, much more so than dust. This kind of tool enables you to get rid of the average drosophila ( fruit fly ) without having to redo the whole surface.

I'd assume a decent body shop has a decent spraying booth. If they don't then they're not spraying cars for a living and in that case I'd doubt they'd be the type of people to burn 53 pounds on this Festool gadget.

Anyway, a good spraying booth works pretty well for keeping the dust out but just not 100% of the time. If you want to achieve that you'll have to start building clean rooms like they use in computer chip manufacturing. It's nice to be able to just target a tiny spot on a body part instead of having to respray the entire part in case of a slip up. The latter option could easily add another 150 euro or more in material and time. And that means bye bye profit. In that light 53 pounds doesn't sound so bad. I only don't understand why they'd need to have the entire thing made out of carbide instead of just some cutting surfaces on a non-carbide handle.
     

 

[grobin]

To be more concise I doubt the utility of both the scraper plane and that spot scraper for automotive work.  For small spots a rotary tool with a carbide or diamond bit  is faster particularly if the spot is deep.  If all I was doing was a Q&D paint job then maybe the spot scraper would make sense.  Unfortunately I almost never got a car where that was all that was needed.  And the folks were always in a big hurry (2 day turn or less).

 

[jmbfestool]

For spot repair like in a body shop, this would be a boon. It's hard to actually tell from the picture, but it seems like the put on different radiusses on the corners as well, a nice touch. There's a hole in the center to attach it to a push/pull handle of sorts, and the cord assures it will stay with you and won't get lost. If this repair scraper is made out of the same high quality ( Leitz?? ) micrograin carbide that Festool uses for theitr router bits and sawblades, it's not overly expensive. I won't say it's a steal, but it certainly is moderately priced.

Without a decent spraying booth, small insects are often a problem, much more so than dust. This kind of tool enables you to get rid of the average drosophila ( fruit fly ) without having to redo the whole surface.

Regards,

Job

Well in the letter I received it actually say the cord is their to keep the Spot scraper at the correct angle for scraping.

JMB