SurFix oils compared to others?

Festoolfootstool said:
if the sponge is kept in a ziplock type bag and the air excluded the sponge will be good for  six months plus
Have you tried this for a long period - my experience with oil finishes is that they will damage a plastic bag if left in contact for a long time.

Peter
 
Peter Parfitt said:
Festoolfootstool said:
if the sponge is kept in a ziplock type bag and the air excluded the sponge will be good for  six months plus
Have you tried this for a long period - my experience with oil finishes is that they will damage a plastic bag if left in contact for a long time.

Peter

Peter

when there was a lot of talk about the surfix last year I used it on a job and then put the sponge in a quality freezer type resealable bag and excluded all the air
the sponge was still soft afer six months of storage the key is excluding the air
 
Festoolfootstool said:
Peter

when there was a lot of talk about the surfix last year I used it on a job and then put the sponge in a quality freezer type resealable bag and excluded all the air
the sponge was still soft afer six months of storage the key is excluding the air

This is brilliant - I will do this from now on. About a year ago I experimented by putting my brushes in some snappy wrappy (cling film to ordinary mortals) and also in a plastic bag from a supermarket. Neither method worked beyond a few days and the plastic bag (which I forgot about) had deteriorated and after 3 months I had to throw the whole lot away.

Great - many thanks.

Peter
 
Timtool said:
Festoolfootstool said:
if the sponge is kept in a ziplock type bag and the air excluded the sponge will be good for  six months plus

Maybe they changed something from the time i was using it, because i kept mine in a sealed plastic bag with as few air as possible, and that would keep the sponge for a week or two max. I didn't use the metal container because the dimples would seal the bottom of the sponge and render it impermeable. Keeping it as intended in the metal containers would keep the sponge just for 24 hours, but even then it would get hard. I almost exclusively used the heavy duty oil, which i suppose hardens more.
  Ahhh, THAT'S probably the key thing. I haven't used the Heavy Duty Oil at all, only Outdoor and One Step. I bet you're right, different formulation.
I'm about to build some storage shelves for my shop, and wanted to finally try the Heavy Duty Oil. This will be a good test of sponge life when using it.
 
i've put a little plastic sheet as a liner in the base of the can and had the Surfix oils last a few weeks, no problem.
the same trick with osmo did not work as well (maybe i got a day or two?), the problem is that the osmo just dries too quickly. i guess i could try a ziplock...
in my experience linseed oil, which is the primary ingredient in the surfix, takes a particularly long time compared to other oils to dry/cure, so this helps with storage.

i use osmo in the empty surfix applicators and it works fine, you just might use up a few more sponges due to storage.
there's quite a bit of pushing the applicator around for large wood surfaces and this can get tedious, so i plan to change up to a very large sponge or similar for jobs with a lot of surface area.
but for medium, small jobs the surfix thingy works great and quickly, with either oil. nice for inside corners and panel edges too. when its about 3/4 empty, it can get very hard to squeeze the finish out- i refill early and it makes it much easier.
 
Peter Parfitt said:
Festool make the very best woodworking tools in the world - they do not make oil. Osmo make the best oil finishes in the world - they do not make woodworking tools and f they did make just one tool it would be rubbish.

The Surfix concept is brilliant but it would be better if Festool did a deal with Osmo and dropped their current oils. In the meantime, keep buying the fabulous Festool tools and get your oils from Osmo.

Peter
that's the answer ive been looking for and agree totally ill stick with osmo and a brush then
 
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